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    Mushy [sign in to see picture]
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    And the following may go some way into explaining why some girls can and some girls cant -:

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    Some believe that the Skene's glands are the source of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_ejaculation.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skene's_gland#cite_note-2 In 2002, http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Emanuele_Jannini&action=edit&redlink=1 of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%27Aquila_University in Italy showed that there may be an explanation both for the phenomenon and for the frequent denials of its existence. Skene's glands have highly variable anatomy, and in some extreme cases they appear to be missing entirely. If Skene's glands are the cause of female ejaculation and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G-spot-orgasms, this may explain the observed absence of these phenomena in many women.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skene's_gland#cite_note-3http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skene's_gland#cite_note-4

    It has been demonstrated that a large amount of lubricating fluid (filtered blood plasma) can be secreted from this gland when stimulated from inside the vagina.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skene's_gland#cite_note-heath-5 Some reports indicate that Skene's glands can suppress sexual climax, leading women to seek medical advice and even undergo surgery.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skene's_gland#cite_note-chalker-6

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    KittyPurry [sign in to see picture]
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    All this science is getting me very horny indeed (yes I am that dorky) ... I have squirted before and never given much thought to what exactly it was made of. Reading all this and realising that it's a medical mystery has gotten me thinking about ways it could be tested. A few techniques come to mind that could be used to work out the composition and relative concentrations of the fluid consitiuents... what I can't work out is why noone has done it yet! I may have to research this further (hell maybe I could do some experiments myself over the summer!)

    xxKPxx

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    Mushy wrote:

    And the following may go some way into explaining why some girls can and some girls cant -:

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    Some believe that the Skene's glands are the source of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_ejaculation.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skene's_gland#cite_note-2 In 2002, http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Emanuele_Jannini&action=edit&redlink=1 of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%27Aquila_University in Italy showed that there may be an explanation both for the phenomenon and for the frequent denials of its existence. Skene's glands have highly variable anatomy, and in some extreme cases they appear to be missing entirely. If Skene's glands are the cause of female ejaculation and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G-spot-orgasms, this may explain the observed absence of these phenomena in many women.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skene's_gland#cite_note-3http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skene's_gland#cite_note-4

    It has been demonstrated that a large amount of lubricating fluid (filtered blood plasma) can be secreted from this gland when stimulated from inside the vagina.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skene's_gland#cite_note-heath-5 Some reports indicate that Skene's glands can suppress sexual climax, leading women to seek medical advice and even undergo surgery.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skene's_gland#cite_note-chalker-6

    The works they cite regarding missing paraurethral glands is, in my opinion, suspect because of bias. The titles alone indicate the authors' regard for female ejaculation as a dysfunctional disorder rather than a natural physiological response:

    "Sexological approach to ejaculatory dysfunction" and "Disorders of ejaculation" both by Jannini E, Simonelli C, Lenzi A

    In my opinion it's very important to check sources before buying into information which may be biased or otherwise suspect, especially when researching topics which can be emotive for many, such as female sexuality.

    Just a note to take care when researching. :)

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    KittyPurry wrote:

    All this science is getting me very horny indeed (yes I am that dorky) ... I have squirted before and never given much thought to what exactly it was made of. Reading all this and realising that it's a medical mystery has gotten me thinking about ways it could be tested. A few techniques come to mind that could be used to work out the composition and relative concentrations of the fluid consitiuents... what I can't work out is why noone has done it yet! I may have to research this further (hell maybe I could do some experiments myself over the summer!)

    xxKPxx

    I think you should become chief research office for Love Honey on female ejaculation. Am sure you must be entitled to a govenment grant for this.The problem you may have is once you have managed to capture some of the said liquid is what do you do with it now? Taking it into your local Boots for testing by the pharmacist may raise a few eyebrows.

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    Mushy wrote:

    KittyPurry wrote:

    All this science is getting me very horny indeed (yes I am that dorky) ... I have squirted before and never given much thought to what exactly it was made of. Reading all this and realising that it's a medical mystery has gotten me thinking about ways it could be tested. A few techniques come to mind that could be used to work out the composition and relative concentrations of the fluid consitiuents... what I can't work out is why noone has done it yet! I may have to research this further (hell maybe I could do some experiments myself over the summer!)

    xxKPxx

    I think you should become chief research office for Love Honey on female ejaculation. Am sure you must be entitled to a govenment grant for this.The problem you may have is once you have managed to capture some of the said liquid is what do you do with it now? Taking it into your local Boots for testing by the pharmacist may raise a few eyebrows.

    Lol I wish!!! Mayb that's what I should do my PhD on next year!!!!

    I'm actually studying biomedical science so I have acess to all manner of analysers that I could use to work out the composition!

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    Lubyanka wrote:

    The works they cite regarding missing paraurethral glands is, in my opinion, suspect because of bias. The titles alone indicate the authors' regard for female ejaculation as a dysfunctional disorder rather than a natural physiological response:

    "Sexological approach to ejaculatory dysfunction" and "Disorders of ejaculation" both by Jannini E, Simonelli C, Lenzi A

    In my opinion it's very important to check sources before buying into information which may be biased or otherwise suspect, especially when researching topics which can be emotive for many, such as female sexuality.

    Just a note to take care when researching. :)

    Oh! Am really sorry, I did not intend to offend, was just interested in the gland thing, maybe I should have read it through properly first.

    Am really sorry Lubyanka.

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    I'm just finishing my PhD Kitty I'm a social scientist though. I think I need to do some more empirical research into this area... 'im-indoors has been instructed to aid me in my quest/fieldwork.

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    Mushy wrote:

    Lubyanka wrote:

    The works they cite regarding missing paraurethral glands is, in my opinion, suspect because of bias. The titles alone indicate the authors' regard for female ejaculation as a dysfunctional disorder rather than a natural physiological response:

    "Sexological approach to ejaculatory dysfunction" and "Disorders of ejaculation" both by Jannini E, Simonelli C, Lenzi A

    In my opinion it's very important to check sources before buying into information which may be biased or otherwise suspect, especially when researching topics which can be emotive for many, such as female sexuality.

    Just a note to take care when researching. :)

    Oh! Am really sorry, I did not intend to offend, was just interested in the gland thing, maybe I should have read it through properly first.

    Am really sorry Lubyanka.

    Not at all, I had nothing but interest in your response, nothing else. :)

    I know how easy it is to find spurious information, and I know how annoying and difficult it can be to tell the good stuff from the rubbish, all I wanted to do was call your attention to questions you might want to ask yourself when checking information. :)

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    Columbus wrote:

    I'm just finishing my PhD Kitty I'm a social scientist though. I think I need to do some more empirical research into this area... 'im-indoors has been instructed to aid me in my quest/fieldwork.

    Wow congratulations on surviving the Phd...they sound like bloody hard work!

    Maybe once I've done mine we should conduct some joint post-doc research into female ejaculation for LH and women everywhere!

    xxKPxx

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    Well I haven't cum that way - we're just exploring the whole G-spot thing... but it is something that intrigues me. OH has been with a couple of women that have done it during intercourse and I suppose I feel a bit jealous really. Not of them doing it but of thinking it must have been better with them than it is with me if they were gushing all over and I can't cum from penetration. Or 'don't ' is probably better way of phrasing it than 'can't'. He assures me it's best he's ever had with me by long way - so it's just my own hang ups and insecurities!!

    The research sounds like a very interesting idea

    I've submitted my thesis and hope to have the Viva in Jan/Feb... so busy job hunting, writing papers at min. Oh and I've just discovered this forum so this is proving VERY distracting! lol

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    KittyPurry wrote:

    Columbus wrote:

    I'm just finishing my PhD Kitty I'm a social scientist though. I think I need to do some more empirical research into this area... 'im-indoors has been instructed to aid me in my quest/fieldwork.

    Wow congratulations on surviving the Phd...they sound like bloody hard work!

    Maybe once I've done mine we should conduct some joint post-doc research into female ejaculation for LH and women everywhere!

    xxKPxx

    I suggest a large upturned umbrella maybe suitable intrument for capturing the specimen you require, then pour it into a large container, perhaps a watering can or something?

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    Well I wouldn't feel jealous about ejaculating or cumming through penetration! I think it was Freud that created this crazy myth that orgasms achieved through vaginal stimulation were somehow superior to those achieved from clitoral...as far as I'm concerned he was a mysogenistic loon with too much time on his hands!

    In my experience clitoral orgasms achieved through manual stimulation, oral sex and vibrators are every bit as satisfying (if not more so) than those I've had through pentrative sex. It's the intimacy of penetration that I enjoy most...for a direct hit of pleasure there are plenty of other awesome things we get up to!

    I'm sure your partner is utterly wild about you and all the sexual exploration you get up to together and the gushing girls pale in comparison to the fun you have together now!

    xxKPxx

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    Yeah, he assures me that's the case... he's just been VERY honest about things he's done in past and I always feel it must have been way more exciting than being with me - but that's totally my issue. He reassures me all the time it's the best with me and explains WHY it is too. God, I'm pathetic and needy! LOL He's tried stuff with me he's not done so I guess it's best for both of us I think I trust him enough to explore things with him though, hence G-spot, he just wants me to relax and enjoy whatever happens. He worries I do 'google diagnosis' on things and start basing my own sex life and body on what other people say they do. That's why this sites great as everyone's so different! It seems like a very safe and supportive community and I've told him I've joined and how lovely everyone seems He said maybe he'd join too. I know there are some couples on here, but I feel like I'd rather hav it as my own space you know? I don't say anything he's not aware of anyway and I go and report back and stuff I've found out! He's got a band forum so i should have my filth forum

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    Hi I'm new here, sorry if this in teh wrong section, I wasnt sure where to put it.

    I have a problem with orgasming of any kind.
    I have twice, (that was over 2 years ago) but most of the time I go through the motions, they get stronger til amost bone shaking, teeth clatering and body shaking powerful, and then they stop. just stop. and wont start again. No matter what I try, new toys, different toys, faster toys, more poweful toys.

    At first I was kinda nervous about the whole peeing feeling (well I get it) and alot of the time I stopped myself til I realised what it was, now I just really dont seem to be able to.

    I know where the g-spot is, I've found that, I dont get anything from manual masurbation, toys work well but I still dont orgasm.

    Any suggestions?

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    Hi, Masquerade Minx, I love your profile picture.

    Some users may direct you to similar topics but because you've given a great back story with personal details I think it would be fab to start a thread. It should receive a lot of responses from members who have experienced these same concerns.

    If do want to read some advice already written there are some great threads. This one included: http://www.lovehoney.co.uk/community/forums/orgasm-army/sex-tips-and-advice/171991-i-cant-come-even-after-seeking-help/

    You may find the list of tips I gave to the starter of this thread of some use. If you'll forgive me thread jacking, I'll post them here. It's specific to another thread but I think the ground I covered could be useful to you (and I'm lazy to type it over )

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    Hi there, brilliant advice above here and I'll try to avoid repetition.

    I know a few young women with this problem. Some of them found that they got closer to success if they stopped trying to follow any idea of what female masturbation should look like. The archetype is the woman on her back providing direct stimulation to the clit, when this is just one variant on a whole spectrum of possibilities.

    Those of us who are lucky grow up with an instictive method of pleasuring ourselves but a lot of women have to riddle it out and it can be like trying to crack a safe at times.

    The Hite Report

    I once read an incredibly helpful book called The Hite Report. It's a comprehensive study on female sexuality and the chapter that grabbed me was on female masturbation techniques. http://www.scribd.com/doc/10790993/Female-Masturbation-Techniques

    This was the first time I had a read that other women, like myself, achieve orgasm more easily if they're lying on their front and pressuring the general area as opposed to going straight for the clit on their backs. It lists a million other ways, from women who have to squeeze their thighs together to ignoring the clitoris completely. I'm not expecting this to give you a fool proof method but I hope you find it as comforting as I did that everyone is unique and there's not a standard way. I think this helped me tremendously to stop thinking that I had 'failed' when climax didn't happen for me when trying techniques that I thought should make me orgasm.

    Neural Pathways

    Another useful article is Tracey Cox's blog entry for LoveHoney, adressed to a woman who had never climaxed with her partner and only orgasmed during solo masturbation when her legs were poker straight. Tracey runs through how we train our bodies and brains to follow certain routes to climax and it's possible to retrain them to find other paths....

    http://www.lovehoney.co.uk/blog/2009/11/27/ask-tracey-cox-27-november/

    Pressure and Tenderness

    It's fantastic news that you are getting very aroused.. That can be the hardest part for other women. I too have a tendency to be over vigorous (usually when I'm trying a method that doesn't suit me) and look down below and it looks like someone's tried to vigorously rub me into non-existence with an eraser. If you feel you're going too hell for leather, you might find that lubes soften the blow. If not this, then perhaps putting a slight barrier between yourself and your hands could cushion the impact. This can be a God send to friction lovers who don't get off the slip and slide that lube provides. A number of women in Hite's report pleasure themselves by making a fist with the bedding, (scrunched up lingerie is more appealing) to grind into.This provides you with a stimulation over a wide area instead of using pin point precision on the clit.

    Swollen

    All this said, your labia swelling and changing colour is a natural reaction to arousal but discomfort, tenderness and irritation to the skin is not a good sign.

    I suspect it could be this vigorous pressure that is causing you some numbness and ruining the party before you hit the jackpot. You might suit a stop-and-start method. Once you feel that you're losing sensation, change your method, decrease your speed or take a little breather. Many women also find that masturabting on their fronts allows them a greater control over the pace and strength of their strokes.

    Giving Up (but not giving up if ya get me)

    Also, don't be suprised if you're one of many women who find their partners eventually find the secret code before themselves. AdnaW has also written excellently on not putting too much stock in the big O but, perhaps, once you stop chasing it, it will turn up and suprise you. Psychology can be funny like that.

    Partner Issues

    It's a widely unreported issue that a lot of women feel that not 'performing' for their partners can make them feel as inadequate as a man experiencing similar dificulties. Try to reassure your partner that he is still blowing your mind. Orgasms are amazing but they are the 'end' of something and can be very brief. If he can get you half way there he is still doing something that requires good communication, intuition, talent and affection. Niether of you are robots and it's unfair to pressure either of yourselves to find a fail proof method.

    You say everything feels better with him? Perhaps you're very, very close and in your case it takes two to tango. The solution may lie in your joint adventures, not solo masturbation. Could be a matter of time.

    I know what you mean about jealously. I'm incredibly jealous of some men (and some women) who seem to be guaranteed a happy ending. It's shaped so much of how I think about sex and sexual politics. But always remind yourself that you are integral and at times crucial to the pleasure that gets him to climax. Men can orgasm from masturbation but I think most will vouch that it's a whole different game when you're really connecting with someone. It's this team work and a confidence that you're striving towards your orgasm together that might help you to climax whist having sex with him.

    Kegels

    One last thing. Have you tried kegel exercises? If you really work at them (and I don't mean a few clenches here and there) it could change your life.

    I don't know if any of this is remotely useful or relevant but I hope it's provided a spring board for ideas. As long as you're happy, confident and getting pleasure from sex you've already got it sussed.

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    Back on the squirting train, I recently received news from a friend of her first squirt......in the back of a taxi.

    Anyone else squirted in an unusual place?

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    I think i squirted today but im not sure

    what's the texture like for most people?

    the wet patch underneath me was fairly thick, almost like male ejaculate :S

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    I was having a conversation with my boyfriend a few weeks ago, and he said the first time he used my We-Vibe on me I squirted, but this was really the first I heard of it, I had no idea at the time. Is it possible to squirt and not know it?

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    Well, it was a very long (two hours!) play session, so the bed was rather wet anyway. I just assumed it was because we'd been playing so long.

    I had no idea at the time. I asked my OH if we could get the We-Vibe out again some time, since it had been ages and he said something along the lines of "Oh yeah, you squirted last time we used that". I had to say "Really?" I really had no idea.

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    Tigerlilies wrote:

    Giving Up (but not giving up if ya get me)

    Also, don't be suprised if you're one of many women who find their partners eventually find the secret code before themselves. AdnaW has also written excellently on not putting too much stock in the big O but, perhaps, once you stop chasing it, it will turn up and suprise you. Psychology can be funny like that.

    Just spotted this now - Thanks TL lovely

    You always give such good advice and really do write it out eloquently and clearly

    I don't read this thread often as I never plan on squirting (it just doesn't appeal to me for some reason - probably the OCD sneaking out) so I missed the above excellent advice but yet again you contributed brilliantly :D

    Ax

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