• Question mainly for GUYS regarding female tattoos and piercings.

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    Nameless [sign in to see picture]
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    Alicia D'amore wrote:

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    Alicia D'amore wrote:

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    Thanks for your response but I must respectfully remind you that the survey question concerns how people repond to girls in porn, so personality is not really a factor.

    This is a forum, not a market research site - if you want people to not add their personal opinions, I suggest you use something like this:

    http://www.surveymonkey.com/

    Adx

    I've clearly stated earlier that opinions are very welcome, BUT as I'm trying to conduct an informal survey (that lots of people have kindly responded to), I'd like to try and keep it on topic rather than get sidetracked onto the subject of personality. If anyone wants to discuss something else, it's not difficult to start another thread!

    And if you want to conduct proper, untainted research it's not dificult to use a research website.

    Suit your question to the medium rather than trying to bend the medium to your question.

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    OK! OK! If I conduct another survey I'll seriously consider doing it where you suggest, but I hardly think it's a major misdemeanour to try a little survey here - after all many forums incorporate polls which is the same sort of thing. And I'm not aiming to conduct "proper, untainted research" - it's far more informal than that. And judging from the numbers that have answered the question, there must be quite a few people interested in knowing the result, so at least it has added some variety here.

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    I don't think it was because it was the idea of doing a survey here, more the answer and post policing.

    You might get better results with a survey though and can keep bumping it and posting it in different sites.

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    My problem isn't with the "survey" it's with the way you've gone about it.

    It all seems a little like "this is my thread and if you don't play by my rules I don't want to know" - you think someone is going off topic, report it to the mods and let them decide rather than telling people to "respectfully remember".

    This is a public forum, people are going to reply in a way they see fit, and telling them to basically - leave the thread if they can't answer the question and only the question is more your problem than theirs.

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    In porn stars in specific, I dont really mind whether they have tattoos or piercings, but I dislike the really bad awful faked stuf, which usually include really skinny orange girls with balloons attached to their chest that dont move.

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    Avrielle_Aniko wrote:

    MasqueradeMinx wrote:

    In porn stars in specific, I dont really mind whether they have tattoos or piercings, but I dislike the really bad awful faked stuf, which usually include really skinny orange girls with balloons attached to their chest that dont move.

    Ooh, agreed. I'd rather see a girl inked up who was trying to be the 'natural' girl rather than the fake boobs and orange tan and bleach blonde hair making a miserable attempt at 'natural'! Lol!

    Tell me about it! They usually moan at everything and are screamers! Its terrible! And the guys are hung like horses! So unnatural

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    Alicia D'amore wrote:

    My problem isn't with the "survey" it's with the way you've gone about it.

    It all seems a little like "this is my thread and if you don't play by my rules I don't want to know" - you think someone is going off topic, report it to the mods and let them decide rather than telling people to "respectfully remember".

    This is a public forum, people are going to reply in a way they see fit, and telling them to basically - leave the thread if they can't answer the question and only the question is more your problem than theirs.

    Adx

    TBH I think that's a rather over trhe top misinterpretation of my position here. The line that you particularly took exception to didn't even say "remember", it was: "I must respectfully remind you that the survey question concerns how people repond to girls in porn, so personality is not really a factor." This was in reponse to a post in which someone was emphased the importance of personality, so my reply was simply saying that personality had not been addressed because of the focus on girls in porn, and not because I'm taking a shallow view of humanity that discounts personality.

    I'm amazed if you want everything to be so formal here that you would genuinine prefer me to do something as extreme as reporting off topic posts to moderators, rather than politely point out the focus of the thread!

    I did NOT tell anyone to leave the thread! I DID in one post propose the possibility of starting a new thread if people wanted to discuss personality. I don't think that's extremely rude or unwelcoming.

    Ultimately, you or anyone can use the thread as an opportunity to discuss whatever you wan't. If you want the freedom to do that, it's only fair that I have the freedom to try and steer it back to the proposed topic if I wish.

    Avrielle - THANK YOU for your understanding. You've 'got it' completely. There are threads elsewhere that discuss tattoos and piercings in general, and if that's what happened here, an attempt to talk about something different would be lost.

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    Ok, fair enough, maybe I misinterpreted what you were saying, maybe you weren't clear enough.

    Either way, I apologise if my reaction was a little extreme.

    I got the impression that if people weren't answering your question, you were dismissing what they had to say...perhaps there was a misunderstanding somewhere along the way.

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    Alicia D'amore wrote:

    Ok, fair enough, maybe I misinterpreted what you were saying, maybe you weren't clear enough.

    Either way, I apologise if my reaction was a little extreme.

    I got the impression that if people weren't answering your question, you were dismissing what they had to say...perhaps there was a misunderstanding somewhere along the way.

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    No problem, hopefully everything is clear now.

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    I kind of agree with the people who are saying this isn't the right place to do this survey

    1) there isn't an option to add a poll
    2) people on this forum like to discuss things and give opoins ect ect and not just give a one word reply.
    3) your excluding people from taking part, I as a stright female can't reply as you state manly guys or bi or lesbian women only.
    4) I don't see much point to this survey, if it's just for you to see if it backs up something you've read. Surely it would have been better to ask what people think and make it an open dissicussipn where you can still see what people like and not make it so strict (which is what it comes across toe as).

    Just my thoughts

    Dxx

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    diamonds wrote:

    I kind of agree with the people who are saying this isn't the right place to do this survey

    1) there isn't an option to add a poll
    2) people on this forum like to discuss things and give opoins ect ect and not just give a one word reply.
    3) your excluding people from taking part, I as a stright female can't reply as you state manly guys or bi or lesbian women only.
    4) I don't see much point to this survey, if it's just for you to see if it backs up something you've read. Surely it would have been better to ask what people think and make it an open dissicussipn where you can still see what people like and not make it so strict (which is what it comes across toe as).

    Just my thoughts

    Dxx

    Fair enough, although I'd have to say that a large majority of people that have responded have said something that I can include in the results, and only one or two have said it's inappropriate. Regarding your points:

    1. True, but I'm not aware of guidelines anywhere that discourage polls of any kind.

    2. I never asked people to limit themselves to a one word reply. If you check my first post on this, you'll see that it says: "Make additional points if you wish".

    3. That was simply because the website of the guy who made the comments that sparked this off has hardly any scenes involving men; it's nearly all women and mostly solo women. Therefore, I thought it very unlikely that straight women would be consumers of the porn on offer there. However, if you watch porn and would like to share your view of female porn performers having piercings and large tattoos (even if the porn also features men), please go ahead and I'm sorry to have made you feel exluded.

    4. I can only say that there seems to have been quite a bit of open discussion here so I don't think everyone has felt ihibited about joing in. It was never my intention to sound strict, but I've encouraged people to include the a, b or c in their answers because I thought it would be interesting at the end of this to see what the overall spread of opinion is.

    If it turns out to be a failed experiment, so be it, but I've recently read one or two posts in other threads along the lines of "we've discussed most things and it's just the same topics that keep coming up" so at least I've tried to come up with something a bit different!

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    Perhaps 'market research' was an unwise term for what has been originally intended here. The reaction to a poll on the OA forum has puzzled me, I personally appreciate clarity and it seems as though Nameless tried to address the topic in a way that was unambiguous, it is not the first thread to contain 'reminders' of the original post purpose and many have spawned secondary threads. For genuine market research this would be an unwise method but as someone who genuinely gets off on data analysis (each to their own) I was rather excited by the prospect of collating results. I could have made a set of graphs .

    I am a straight female but asked my husband for his response on the basis of what he finds attractive and a turn on/ off in terms of body modifications as we don't watch porn but he notices aesthetics!
    He is a C in that in general he fins the fewer the better, prefers a few piercings to tats and his limit on tattoos would be the size of a palm, some discreet small tattoos are attractive but on the whole the more natural the better. I have pierced ears that are unnoticeable if I am not wearing the jewellery, and have considered getting a small tattoo but am undecided.

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    Avrielle - thanks again for your thoughts.

    No, it absolutely is NOT market research. Many years ago, I actually did a temporary market research job, so I know there's a big difference between what would be considered credible and usable in a market research context and something as small and informal as this thread. Although I've used the word "survey", it's essentially just a thread to guage opinion, and the a/b/c aspect is something that will later enable me to say the percentage of people that fall into each category. It's only 'use' is that I (and hopefully some others) will find it interesting to see how the views of contributors here compares to the thoughts of the website guy mentioned in the first post.

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    Rowan - Many thanks for your contribution and understanding. If I could go back and re-phrase my first post, I'd change the reference to "a little 'market research' exercise", because although this was meant in a fairly light-hearted way, it can be taken more seriously than was the intention.

    However, I'll still provide some figures after allowing a few more days for responses, and you would be very welcome to produce a graph - except I suppose it's probably impossible to present one here!

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    I find my tastes run to 'asolutely no tattoos or piercings at all' - make me feel all creeped out!

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    i like tasteful tats and peircings too ..what i dont like is peircings on the face .nose and eyebrows are ok

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    well siad magic big round of applause mate

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    WandA wrote:

    You might like the person or indeed love them but that does not make everything they do/wear/are sexually attractive, if Ad dressed as a Nazi (I've lost! [No, I'm not Max Mosely]) then I think it's justifiable if I don't find it attractive.

    I wore a nazi uniform once. I've seen less lustful looks on my OH's face when I've worn corsets, stockings and suspenders. He is a bit of a nutter though lol!

    I'm a bicurious female who looks at this kind of stuff, and I must say it really depends on the tattoo itself and the style of the person with it. By prominent, it really depends on whether you mean in terms of position or size. Generally, I prefer small, discrete tattoos, but I prefer none at all really.

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    Nameless wrote:

    3. That was simply because the website of the guy who made the comments that sparked this off has hardly any scenes involving men; it's nearly all women and mostly solo women. Therefore, I thought it very unlikely that straight women would be consumers of the porn on offer there. However, if you watch porn and would like to share your view of female porn performers having piercings and large tattoos (even if the porn also features men), please go ahead and I'm sorry to have made you feel exluded.

    Tattoos aside, you probably want to sort this view out first, if you are looking to carve out a career in 21st century porn. Not a personal comment, just business advice.

    Nameless wrote:

    it was difficult to find natural 'next door' type girls because so many here (that want to appear on such sites) think it's sexy to have extremely prominent tattoos and/or body piercings.

    The girl next door to me has a tattoo. Huh.....

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    my oh has a tat and so has magic hands partner too so what are you trying to say ?

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    PS, I recommend you look to business models that you want to emulate.

    Have you seen other sites that focus on the female orgasm?

    Focus on 'ordinary' women of the non fake tits/fake nails/fake hair variety?

    Have you found out how these companies operate?

    Have you ever been on the websites for I Feel Myself and I Shot Myself?

    I would pay special attention to how the best sites don't presume anything about their customers, be it sexual preference or gender.

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