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  1. The Perfect Vagina

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    Following the thread Sex Ed prog. on C4 I downloaded the program 'The Perfect Vagina'

    Within the first few minutes there is a young girl have large lumps of her outer lips cut off while she was awake because she had been teased about it.

    Reminded me of the guy who made the prog (for the BBC?) because he had a small penis.

    If women don't really care if a man is 7" or hung like a porn star and it is just the guy with the complex, do guys really care if the outer lips are a little bigger than the girl in the porn movie (and worth being sliced)?

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    Scary balarey There is no such thing as the perfect anything.

    I'm all pretty contained in the outer lips so don't know where others are coming from, but I feel for them if they are unhappy, but would like to reassure them that variety is good and that they should love themselves. Monmouth (sexiest blogger ever) has a really good post to make you feel better here http://monmouth.blogspot.com/2004_04_01_archive.html

    "I have a working hypothesis about pussies, which is that the "poutier" they are, the more sensitive the clit. If the labia minora are hidden by the labia majora, and you have to dig for the clit, you can probably stimulate it directly. Not that you should ever go directly there - let the clit's owner guide you on your way, by all means. On the other hand, if the labia minora protrude in a "blossoming flower" kind of way, watch out - touch the clit and you get an "ouch!" no matter how delicate the approach. In extreme cases, only indirect stimulation works for pouty pussies (which, by the way I find very sexy). A pouty-lipped girlfriend of mine, way back when, was so easily overstimulated that she could normally not come from oral - but when she got painfully sensitive she could have massive orgasms from spanking! By contrast, a long-distance lover of mine who I see rarely these days, has such a well-protected little box that she masturbates by slapping her clit with her fingers. On one memorable occasion I was fucking her from behind. She began to slap her clit forcefully, and in the heat of the moment thwacked my balls HARD when I thrust into her, instantly putting me out of commission for half an hour."

    That made me think that any types of pussy are equally amazinga nd made me feel good.

    And yeah I don't care about what size a guy is, as long as I fancy him and want to bed him I'm happy!

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    Please - vaginas are wonderful, wonderful things whatever the shape/size/colour!

    It's ridiculous that anyone would ever worry about the appearance of theirs unless there was a medical reason, sex being painful for example. Some types of cosmetic surgery I can understand, but this is really really not needed.

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    I just hate that conforming thing. We should all revel in our uniqueness!

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    It's easy to accept that some girls prefer hairy chests over bald so is it not feasible to suggest some men may prefer a fabulous-flappy-fanny (sorry! in the mood for a bit of alliteration) over a lovely-little-labia (there I go again!

    Each and everyone of us is unique in looks and tastes - love yourself and others will love you - confidence is an attactive quality!

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    This arguement seems to emulate that which has been confronting men since the dawn of time when the cave men didn't have a nice pair of y-fronts to cover their manhood with.............does size matter?

    I'll make no bones about it, i'm not in anyway the biggest guy in the gym showers (probably the smallest on some days.lol) but i'm a firm believer in that it doesn't matter on how big things are, its what you do with it. I would therefore naturally assume that the same can be said of women and vaginas?? As long as there is no reason that you cannot have great sex, why go under the knife? Personally I don't like the (crude) flappy beef curtains, and have never come across them with ex's, but it certainly would not put me off them!!!

    I seek some comfort in knowing that women have worries about the size of things in their pants just as much as men, but to be honest I think both arguements (penis and vagina) are deviod of any reasoning, other than a self confidence issue as Ameliorate said.

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    I think it is a confidence thing, but I cant see how or why we need to make such a big deal out of all this, does it really matter what size/shape/colour etc both penis and vagina's are?

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    sexymel88 wrote:

    I think it is a confidence thing, but I cant see how or why we need to make such a big deal out of all this, does it really matter what size/shape/colour etc both penis and vagina's are?

    Absolutely not!! As long as they work completely healthily then noone should give a dam about appearence.

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    Exactly, I, for one, dont give a crap what they look like, we all have enough hang ups (ie confidence problems) in our lives without adding to them

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    Ah thats awful that some one would go to that length! Its like the "designer vagina's" its awful, we are all unique and shouldnt compare ourselves to others.

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    I'd never change my bits for anyone, they do the job and I've never had any complaints - and you can bet your ass if anyone had complained they a) wouldn't have seen my flange again and b) would have to spend some time looking for their own genitals! (they'll find them in a pickle jar)

    I've only heard of rare cases when it's necessary and done on NHS, they were so long they had become painful with chafing. I can understand having an op when they are dangling down your thighs and you can't go swiming or cycle or wear trousers.

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    I still have zero understanding of the phrase 'beef curtains'. Like, I know it refers to vulva, but I am clueless as to what that's supposed to look like and why it's a bad thing...

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    Theres is no reason for anyone to have any bits cut off their Vagina. I follow a similar viewpoint on circumcison, theres no need at all for a young boys foreskin to be cut off uness its a medical issue

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    if it is a medical issue then i can totally understand but to do something like that just for the sake of it or because its in fashion is taking it way too far

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    shellyboo wrote:

    I still have zero understanding of the phrase 'beef curtains'. Like, I know it refers to vulva, but I am clueless as to what that's supposed to look like and why it's a bad thing...

    Beef curtains is like the street name (oh yes, i'm down with the kids and hip to the jive) for having a rather large "labia majora" - the outer lips of the vagina. As everyone seems to be saying, if the women doesn't find anything wrong with her vagina, then why should we men?

    If a bloke sees a girls fadge and wants to comment about it, maybe he should look at his own cock and all the 'fashinable imperfections' before saying anything. I've got a freckle on my cock, and i wouldn't change it for the world, its my love stick's love spot!

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    hehe Im gonna be a tad controversial now then! Oooh madam... someone get the whip!

    I prefer a nice smooth 'perfect' vagina in as much as inner lips being where the name suggests and not hanging around outside like a yob on a street corner after his bedtime.
    Thankfully, Im perfectly happy with my own (and my partners) vagina so its not an issue but hand on heart, I can't say that I'd be willing to chow down on the big ole beef curtains.

    I know about all that don't judge a book by its cover and all that but well, I just cant honestly say I'd be happy with it... some of them look like dying slugs on a window, not all that appetising.
    However, if the owner of said fanny is happy with it then there is absolutely no reason to have it all cut up. I actually felt bits of me trying to crawl up inside me never to see the light of day ever again. If it was me in that situation, well I don't know. I'd be tempted to have it hacked off I imagine... then again, Im tempted to have bigger boobs but I dont so who knows what the reality would be.

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    I always thought beef curtains just referred to any vagina, coz of the outer lips. Variety in life is good methinks!

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    I think it does just refer to any outer lips, but perhaps the more prominent the lips the more likely the term is to be used...

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    Hmm. I'm still mystified! Was always vaguely worried about mine looking 'abnormal', for no other reason that I have no comparison, but I was informed that mine is rather pretty by the bf the other day

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    The idea of having ANY surgery on those parts seems odd to me. I mean, there are countries where girls are ritually mutilated, and here there's people paying for it!

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