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    Yes, phthalates have been on my mind this afternoon.

    I've always concluded that phthalates are everywhere, so if and when I can, I like to avoid increasing those numbers and not put them up my nether regions.

    Admittedly, it's not like I'm eating them every day but I prefer the benefits of medical grade silicone, glass and metal etc. Besides, they don't smell funny, taste funny, melt together and they're much less of a bugger to clean.

    But health debates aside, I find that a phthalate toy is rarely a good investment. It's presence is often indicative of a toy that won't be around for long. Cheap stuff breaks and ends up in the land fill, so for me, being phthalate free is a good sign for good quality and an eco friendly choice.

    Brands

    Lelo, Evolved and Tantus are renowned brands for P-free toys. And as far as I can see, the LoveHoney range does great phthalate free toys too. LH rabbits look *so* like jelly but they're made TPR and rainbows and unicorns instead. Huzzah.

    Violet Blue

    Uber cool sex blogger, Violet Blue, also champions: Vixen Creations, Fun Factory, d.Vice, Sportsheets and Vibratex as brands that hand pick their products and don't just flog any old rubber. (the original Sex and the City Rabbit is a latex/phthalate free bunny) You can read Violet Blues excellent article on Unsafe Sex Toys on her website: http://www.tinynibbles.com/unsafe There's great tips on the little, extra ways to care for your porous jelly toys, from proper storage to cleaning them safely. If in doubt, pop a condom on.

    Alternative Toys

    So phthalates put me off but it's really easy to find great alternatives. The Durex Play Ring, for example, contains latex and phthalates, but for a lot less, the LH BASIC ring is free from both (and from my comparisons, it's much, much better)

    BASIC http://www.lovehoney.co.uk/product.cfm?p=14798

    Another great example is the Mini Rabbits on offer. This one contains latex and phthalates,

    http://www.lovehoney.co.uk/product.cfm?p=294but

    but for a few pounds more, the LH rabbit is made from TPR slicone (skin safe rubber) And it doesn't have a silly face.

    Magic Mini Vibe http://www.lovehoney.co.uk/product.cfm?p=16407

    And if you want something identical, I can't actually see the difference between the first mini rabbit and this skin safe option

    Cupid's Mini Rabbit: http://www.lovehoney.co.uk/product.cfm?p=16478

    Rabbits are notorious for phthalates but there's some great Evolved bunnies that don't contain them.

    Blog

    The Lovehoney blog has great info on sex toy materials that separate fact from overblown fiction.

    http://www.lovehoney.co.uk/blog/?q=phthalatesIt

    It all boils down to allowing the customer to choose, which is why I'm really glad that Lovehoney clearly state if a toy contains phthalates or latex. So many websites don't do this. There's also the search buttons that allow you to browse by material.

    Personally, I'm going to buy silicone toys and the like because of my preferences and the current climate means that they tend to come from cooler companies I like to support. Plus it's always better than cheap jelly with Robert Patterson's face stamped on it (not that LH would sell this kind of thing )

    What are your views on sex toy materials? Does it figure into your shopping or are you not bothered? What's your experience with jelly toys compared to silicone? And do you have tips on caring for those less stable materials? Let me know what you think, OA.

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    Tigerlilies wrote:

    Yes, phthalates have been on my mind this afternoon.

    I've always concluded that phthalates are everywhere, so if and when I can, I like to avoid increasing those numbers and not put them up my nether regions.

    (removed for clarity not rubbishness!)

    What are your views on sex toy materials? Does it figure into your shopping or are you not bothered? What's your experience with jelly toys compared to silicone? And do you have tips on caring for those less stable materials? Let me know what you think, OA.

    x

    Do I dislike them? yes. Actively avoid? no.

    As you mentioned its very hard to escape them, and other nasties, plastic flooring to body sprays, to actively avoid them in all bits of life takes way more effort than I can/will give, especially when I'm already busy reading packets for 'natural nasties' such as saturated fats, salt etc...

    I generally take the view that as a fully formed adult I'm generally ok but children and especially pregnant women need much more care. 'Nasties' might disrupt certain systems in me but in a child or foetus it disrupts the actual development and can lead to problems later on.

    I think there is also environmental factors to consider, isn't bad to be pumping this crap into eco-systems etc... I've read about fish and chemical caused gender gaps in Canada. If we disrupt certain animals that reproduce differently, were gender isn't as simple as X or Y, then you have potential to do big damage.

    There are just too many things that should be avoided in a shopping trip to actually avoid them all. I guess we don't actively consider it because like you a lot of our stuff is free of 'em anyway... We've reached the stage were we have everything we 'need' in a sex way and now only buy something if its extra special or different and as mentioned may of the leading brands are on the same plane anyway.

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    http://www.news24.com/World/News/Sex-toys-contain-toxins-20060908

    Greenpeace don't like 'em.

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    I agree. After reading many of these reports, I stopped handing out jelly dildos to children.

    Nothing can be totally eco in this world but I love that there are a lot ways on Lovehoney do to our best. Somewhere out there is a land fill full of butt plugs but the Rabbit Amnesty is something we should all tip our hats to.

    Thank you, Lovehoney!

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    I think it was more of a pressing issue ten years ago when it really needed to be sorted out.

    For example: Nubby Gate

    http://www.thesexcarnival.com/2009/02/babeland-nubby-g/

    when some toys were found to have 100 times the acceptable European standard inside them. The Nubby G got a serious bashing and now there are fabulous, skin safe replacements.

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    Speaking of investment pieces.........

    .......buy me

    http://www.lovehoney.co.uk/product.cfm?p=17560

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    It also depends how I'm feeling.

    Some days it's just all nihilism from me... Others it's 'What's the point in arguing about this point when that point is more pressing etc... You have to choose your battles carefully etc'... Other days every issue I believe in is just as important as the rest.

    I'm currently in a content 'meh' mood... I'll be full blown annoyed at the nasties tomorrow!

    Sorry for the depressing deepness there...

    It is good LH eliminate them were they can though!

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    Tigerlilies wrote:

    Speaking of investment pieces.........

    .......buy me

    http://www.lovehoney.co.uk/product.cfm?p=17560

    I noticed that before.... I went with the line 'If you don't look, you don't lust'... Did I just invent that line? It should so be in the bible... Anyway, I avoided it because I noticed the price but you had to go and make me click it didn't you!

    It looks like a alien space gun... that's a plus by the way.

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    WandA wrote:

    It also depends how I'm feeling.

    Some days it's just all nihilism from me... Others it's 'What's the point in arguing about this point when that point is more pressing etc... You have to choose your battles carefully etc'... Other days every issue I believe in is just as important as the rest.

    I'm currently in a content 'meh' mood... I'll be full blown annoyed at the nasties tomorrow!

    Sorry for the depressing deepness there...

    It is good LH eliminate them were they can though!

    True, but in ten years I think toys will have moved on and we'll all be like 'dude, remember when we used to buy toys made of phthalates? Purrr-leeasse.'

    And if every brand stopped using them, it would cease to be an issue

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    WandA wrote:

    Tigerlilies wrote:

    Speaking of investment pieces.........

    .......buy me

    http://www.lovehoney.co.uk/product.cfm?p=17560

    I noticed that before.... I went with the line 'If you don't look, you don't lust'... Did I just invent that line? It should so be in the bible... Anyway, I avoided it because I noticed the price but you had to go and make me click it didn't you!

    It looks like a alien space gun... that's a plus by the way.

    Perhaps I can tempt you with a 'novelty'

    http://robertlindsay.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/obamadildo.jpg

    Just say no.

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    Tigerlilies wrote:

    True, but in ten years I think toys will have moved on and we'll all be like 'dude, remember when we used to buy toys made of phthalates? Purrr-leeasse.'

    And if every brand stopped using them, it would cease to be an issue

    Or in ten years time it'll be:

    "Pfffttt... remember when we used to have sex with actual people! These Robosextrons 3000 are A-Maze-Ing!"

    Happy mice make the world worthwhile agains:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/leicester/10221571.stm

    I don't mean to trample all over your important issue TL! It's just not my fight, what with limited resources and all! T'is important though!

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    Tigerlilies wrote:

    WandA wrote:

    Tigerlilies wrote:

    Speaking of investment pieces.........

    .......buy me

    http://www.lovehoney.co.uk/product.cfm?p=17560

    I noticed that before.... I went with the line 'If you don't look, you don't lust'... Did I just invent that line? It should so be in the bible... Anyway, I avoided it because I noticed the price but you had to go and make me click it didn't you!

    It looks like a alien space gun... that's a plus by the way.

    Perhaps I can tempt you with a 'novelty'

    http://robertlindsay.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/obamadildo.jpg

    Just say no.

    Obama Baboon arse.

    That is wrong... Very wrong.

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    WandA wrote:

    I don't mean to trample all over your important issue TL! It's just not my fight, what with limited resources and all! T'is important though!

    Oh Lord, I don't think that at all. In fact, everything you wrote rings all too true. I *love* the happy mice.

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    Whoo for safe rabbits and mice!

    At least you don't get that nasty rubber smell with plastics!

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    The google image result for phthalates sex toys show the unappetizing form they usually come in

    http://media.onsugar.com/files/2010/02/08/2/33/331481/9923ad54b12c0038_soft_rubber_vibrators.jpg

    I'm trying to figure out where the third motor on the 'alien gun' Zini Love vibe is. Hm.....

    Still want one though. The pink one looks great but purple toys always remind me of The Phantom for some reason...

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    Hi Tigerlilies!

    The B3 Onye Fleur I was sent to review:

    http://www.lovehoney.co.uk/product.cfm?p=17308

    is free of phthalates and all sorts of other contaminants - they have a write up in the instruction leaflet about how they are following Greenpeace's guidance of the safety of plastics.

    It's not a bad vibe either!

    Not the strongest I own, but still one I value and enjoy using - If it got lost I'd buy another.

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    CurlyCoupleWife wrote:

    Not the strongest I own, but still one I value and enjoy using - If it got lost I'd buy another.

    Um, how exactly would you lose it? :P

    I don't know nearly enough about pthalates to comment - I'll have a read and get back to you!

    Ax

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    AdnaW wrote:

    CurlyCoupleWife wrote:

    Not the strongest I own, but still one I value and enjoy using - If it got lost I'd buy another.

    Um, how exactly would you lose it? :P

    I don't know nearly enough about pthalates to comment - I'll have a read and get back to you!

    Ax

    Be careful you don't find any swabs...

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/10167843.stm

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    Not the same but similar problems from chemical nastiness:

    http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/bpa-kills-more-than-his-erection-2022389.html

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    I'm pushed to see much difference between these twin bullet toys from Cali Exotics but one is phthalates free.

    Phthalates Free: http://www.lovehoney.co.uk/product.cfm?p=18945 Slightly smaller girth and length

    Contains Phthalates and latex: http://www.lovehoney.co.uk/product.cfm?p=18946

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