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  1. G Spot and Needing to Pee

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    sxe_couple21 [sign in to see picture]
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    Hi everyone.

    Merry Christmas and all that, hope everyone has got what they were after (or if not, ordered it from the whale of a sale).

    Over the years we've tried to find Mrs.SXE's G spot many a time and failed. Once or twice she's managed to cum from penetration aloneboth during sex and with fingers but these occasions are a rarity. The other night after watching yet another video and going for a different approach we started to get somewhere but that was short lived.

    We've read a lot of posts regarding G spot stimulation before but were wondering if people could/would clarify how much pressure they exert on the front wall as the vid we watched suggested quite firm.

    Secondly I know anatomically there's little we can do to stop the needing to pee feeling but is there anything else because we're pretty sure it doesn't help the fun along.

    As per usual any tips or tricks we might have missed are very welcome.

    xxx

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    Only thing you can do about need to pee sydrome is to make sure you have an empty bladder so you can reassure yourself. I personally need quite a lot of pressure on my gspot and my OH to be pressing down just above my pubic mound. I'd build up the pressure with your oh until they tell you it's enough x

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    ok emptiness sounds like a sensible start... any more clues?

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    Have a look at the 'squirting' thread - there's info on there, including my own recent experience of this. My OH massaged my g spot for the first time and I actually squirted - although I don't feel I orgasmed. Interestingly others seem to think that the two are not necessarily connected, which I'd assumed before my experience they must be with it being called 'female ejaculation' and the comparision to male orgasm! The pee sensation is very weird and it really is just a case of going with it. I actually felt like I WAS peeing when I guess I must have squirted a little a couple of times! So it is a bit of a mind f*ck! I suppose because it comes out of the uretha then you have to train your brain to understand that sensation is not peeing... because obviously that's our only experience of that sensation until ejaculation! Anyway, check out the 'squirting' thread. There's also another called 'female ejaculation' with comments/advice.

    My OH has commented on the 'Squirting' on from his point of view re pressure/best position for him to be in etc. We also found the link to the video on that thread helpful.

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    ive always had the needing to wee feeling and made my partner stop and ive never been sure if ive ever squirted as ive been soaking wet, like its running down my legs and theres a massive wet patch on the bed but theres never been like a jet, like u see in porn films!

    i say what the others have go for a pee before and then just relax and not think of that needing to pee feeling, i won a copy of the tracey cox's karma sutra and she has a whole bit about squitring and about this feeling to need to pee, once im 100% better we shall be having a good read to what she says and practasing to see what happen! from what i read so far its really good sound advice, so maybe pick a copy of it up? its full of some really amazing stuff!

    Dxx

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    Columbus, we've tried the tips from that squirting video over and over but the approach just seems way too rough for her and . We'll have a look at your other halfs tips though, thanks.

    Thanks diamonds, sounds interesting...

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    hello extrawrongmint and welcome to the OA

    i think the best person to answear your reply would be lubyanka as she has a lot of info about things and im pretty sure she has some on g spots and squirting but shes away at the mo for the holidays but im sure she will give u a brilliant reply.

    as for the needing to pee thing as far as i know you just have to let go and stop thinking about that feeling, i know that sounds weird but for me if i relax and stop thinking of that feeling then more amazing feelings start happening and i orgasm though as i said i dont know of i have squirted myself before as ive never seen a jet of what ever come out but have had huge wet patches on the sheets and have been soaking wet that its been running over the tops of my legs and dripping off my partners hands.

    but then again ive heard that what we see in porn is normaly just them pissing and now actually squirting.

    Dxx

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    As I said for me when it happened I felt like I needed to pee then felt like i was peeig - but it wasn't, it ws a couple of small squirts apparently. Also, my experience and that of others (Kitty purry springs to mind) suggests that squirting is NOT indicitive of an orgasm. I know people that orgasm from g-spot stimultion and have the 'electric shock' spasms but they do not squirt. I did squirt but didn't feel I'd had an orgasm...

    AA - it definitely is ejaculated out of the uretha. Lubyanka has posted all the physiology behind it on another thread - maybe 'squirting' or 'female ejaculation' threads... or wiki it But that's why it feels like you need to pee you see, because it's putting pressure on that area. I think the other threads on this would be useful to people xx

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    This is interesting...

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_ejaculation

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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urethral_sponge

    This is good too - explains that the urethral sponge is known as the 'g spot'.

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    lol - I don't like beetroot! There was a similar test though mentioned on the wiki info - basically the same principle; have a read EWM.

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    From wiki:

    Research

    Much of the problem in arriving at a consensus relates to a failure to adopt generally agreed-on definitionshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_ejaculation#cite_note-schubach02-66 and to research methodology. Research on this subject has used highly selected individuals, case studies, or very small numbers of subjects, making generalisation difficult, hence the continuing controversies and debates. For instance, much of the research into the nature of the fluid concentrates on trying to determine whether it is urine or not. Problems relate to the difficulties involved in the collection of specimens and of contamination. Since the area of interest is para-urethral glands, it is impossible to completely separate the secretions from urine, especially where there may be retrograde ejaculation back up the urethra towards the bladder. The best data comes from studies where women have abstained from coitus, and where their own urine is used as controls, pre and post orgasm. One way of sorting this out is the use of chemicals that are excreted in the urine, so that any urinary contamination can be detected. Another methodological issue arises from the fact that the composition of the fluid appears to vary with the menstrual cycle,http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_ejaculation#cite_note-67 while the biochemical profile of the para-urethral tissues also varies with age.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_ejaculation#cite_note-68 Other issues relate to the sensitivity and specificity of the markers chosen. The key questions are the source of the fluid produced, and its nature.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_ejaculation#cite_note-bohlen-43 Some findings have been presented in conferences but never published in peer review journals, and many others are in difficult to access resources.

    [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Female_ejaculation&action=edit&section=17] Relation to urinary incontinence

    For most of the last century, there was controversy over whether the effect existed at all, and in recent history there has been confusion between female ejaculation and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urinary_incontinence. Even in 1982, Bohlen explained the accepted wisdom;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_ejaculation#cite_note-bohlen-43

    The previously accepted notion that all fluid expelled during a woman's orgasm is urine is now being challenged...sexologists must take care not to assume now that any fluid produced at orgasm is "female ejaculate".

    However, scientific studies from the 1980s and later have demonstrated that a substance is produced which is distinct from urine, though it shares some qualities, such as alkalinity, with urine.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_ejaculation#cite_note-Kratochvil-6 But women claiming to have ejaculations who have agreed to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urinary_catheterization prior to intercourse expelled large volumes of urine through the catheter at orgasm. A recent study of women who claim to ejaculate found no evidence of any urological problems, suggesting these two conditions (ejaculation and coital incontinence) are quite distinct physiologically, although perhaps not always distinguishable in a particular individual's mind.[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed">citation needed] For instance Davidson's study of 1,289 women found that the sensation of ejaculation was very similar to that of urination. It may be important to sort out whether there is in fact any incontinence in women who present complaining of this, to avoid unnecessary interventions.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_ejaculation#cite_note-whipple-chalker-42http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_ejaculation#cite_note-69 It is important to distinguish orgasmic ejaculation from vaginal discharges which may require investigation and treatment. However in individual cases, the exact source of any reported discharge may not be obvious without further investigation.

    [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Female_ejaculation&action=edit&section=18] Nature of fluid

    Critics of the concept have maintained that ejaculation is merely either stress incontinence or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaginal_lubrication. Research in this area has concentrated almost exclusively on attempts to prove that it is not urinehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_ejaculation#cite_note-chalker02-52http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_ejaculation#cite_note-70 measuring substances such as http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urea, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creatinine, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostatic_acid_phosphatase (PAP), http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostate_specific_antigen (PSA),http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_ejaculation#cite_note-zaviacic99-5 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glucose and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fructose http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_ejaculation#cite_note-71 levels. Early work was contradictory, for instance the initial study on one woman by Addiego and colleagues reported in 1981,http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_ejaculation#cite_note-addiego-40 could not be confirmed in a subsequent study on 11 women in 1983, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_ejaculation#cite_note-goldberg-72 but were confirmed in another 7 women in 1984.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_ejaculation#cite_note-belzerjsr84-73 But in 1985 a different group studied 27 women, and found only urine,http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_ejaculation#cite_note-alzate85-55 suggesting that results depend critically on the methods used.

    A 2007 study on two women, involved ultrasound, endoscopic and biochemical analysis of fluid. The ejaculate was compared to pre-orgasmic urine from the same woman, and also to published data on male ejaculate. In both women, higher levels of PSA, PAP, glucose but lower levels of creatinine were found in the ejaculate. PSA levels were comparable to those in males.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_ejaculation#cite_note-wimpissinger-4

    [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Female_ejaculation&action=edit&section=19] Source of fluid

    One very practical objection relates to the claims about the volume ejaculated, since this has to come from some storage area in the pelvis, of which the urinary http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bladder is obviously the largest source. The actual volume of the para-urethral tissue is quite small. By comparison, male ejaculate varies from 0.2–6.6 mL (0.04–1.3 tsp) (95% http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confidence_interval), with a maximum of 13 mL (2.6 tsp).http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_ejaculation#cite_note-74 Therefore claims of larger amounts of ejaculate are likely to contain at least some amount of urine. The eleven specimens analyzed by Goldberg in 1983,http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_ejaculation#cite_note-goldberg-72 ranged from 3–15 mL (0.6–3.0 tsp).http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_ejaculation#cite_note-belzerjsr84-73 One source states that Skene's glands are capable of excreting 30–50 mL (6–10 tsp) in 30–50 seconds.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_ejaculation#cite_note-heath-62 but it is unclear how this was measured and has not been confirmed. One approach is to use a chemical like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methylene_blue (or drugs like Urised which contain it) so that any urinary contamination can be detected.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_ejaculation#cite_note-belzerjsr84-73 Belzer showed that in a woman he studied, the dye was in her urine, but not her orgasmic expulsion.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_ejaculation#cite_note-belzer-39

    PAP and PSA have been identified in the para-urethral tissues, using biochemical and immunohistochemical methods, confirming that the ejaculate likely arises from the ducts in these tissues, in a manner homologous to that in the male.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_ejaculation#cite_note-75http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_ejaculation#cite_note-76http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_ejaculation#cite_note-77http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_ejaculation#cite_note-78http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_ejaculation#cite_note-79 Another marker common to the prostate tissue in both male and female is Human Protein 1.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_ejaculation#cite_note-80

    However, studies on the actual penis are very limited compared to those on the tissues of likely origin. PSA occurs in urine, which is elevated in post-orgasmic samples, compared to pre-orgasmic. Simultaneous collection of ejaculate also showed PSA in all cases, but in higher concentration than the urine.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_ejaculation#cite_note-santamaria-59

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    I've seen vids where women have very thick cum that is obviously coming out of the vagina and I think sometime I get wetter and 'cum' more from my vagina too. But the 'squirting' g-spot malarky is out of the urethra - hence the pee sensation and all the debate about whether it's just urine or is orgasmic fluid etc. And the Wiki info about research about gives details about the anatomy of it, which says it's the urethra. It's all very interesting! I was surprised when I did squirt actually. We've not tried it since. We did a few days later but I felt really tender and it hurt when he touched me so we stopped. But we've ear-marked NYE for a whirl LOL

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    Hmm, yeah it's not posted properly... well anyway, EWM if you click on the wiki link and read the bit on 'research' it says that someone did a test where they used a pill that dyes urine (to show urinary infection or something) and the woman's urine came out blue but when she ejaculated it was clear... so showing it wasn't urine.

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    Hiya!

    I haven't got much to add that hasn't been mentioned but one tip that might help with the needing to pee problem is to actually try and pee. You can do it in the bath so that you're not worrying about messing up the sheets etc. but just stimulate as you would normally then when the urge to pee builds up try and do it.

    I have found that if I get the urge to pee and actually try to urinate it doesn't happen. Doing this might help to reassure Mrs sxe that it won't happen by accident!

    xxKPxx

    PS If I remember rightly Lubyanka herself hasn't squirted but then she's so knowledgeable I bet she'll have some informative gems to share!

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    I think that's a good attitude. When me and Elcano had decided to experiment locating and stimuating my G-spot i was anxious about 'peeing' and he said that squirting isn't the same but at the end of the day if I was so carried away I did wet myself he could live with it and it'd just be between the two of us anyway etc. so not to worry. When we did try I just totally let go (albeit I felt very anxious!) and I apparently squirted a little twice. Afterwards we lay there a while and I didn't need to pee - the sensation had gone. Then we had intercourse and it was a while after that I felt I needed the loo. Its just a very strange sensation - not one i'm sure is entirely pleasurable for me at the moment... we need to practice more when I'm not 'on' in a few days time as we've only tried it the once.

    He said on the 'squirting ' thread that he was worried he'd hurt me as he seemed to be touching me very firmly but it didn't hurt. However, then we tried another time and, even though he'd made me cum with a clit orgasm so I was turned on, when he put his fingers inside me it really hurt so we stopped. It actually made me cry because it hurt so much! But he wasn't doing anything different. Maybe your menstrual cycle impacts on how sensitive you are there, as with nipples/breasts...?

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    Copious amounts of tea don't help matters either!

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    Columbus wrote:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urethral_sponge

    This is good too - explains that the urethral sponge is known as the 'g spot'.

    Yes, every woman has a Urethral sponge, but not every woman has what some researcher described as a G-spot. I just think those women that did has a bump or rough spot right there, and that there was nothing else different.

    The urethral sponge is part of the clitoral network. The clitoris has 18 parts according to some information. The Clitoral Truth is a book that further describes this.

    All orgasms are clitoral, it is just that some are from indirect clitoral stimulation, or from being psychologically aroused so much, then cumming, sush as if a woman cums while being kissed on the neck.

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