• Labiaplasty or pussy lip reduction

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    myghost [sign in to see picture]
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    luckily i was blessed with not having flappy beef curtains like i've seen a lot of in porn but if i was born like that i'd never have labiaplasty unless i absolutely needed it for a medical reason. while you might feel more confident and look better cosmetically or the pain and discomfort is gone from what i've heard about the procedure not having the labia there anymore to control the flow means you spray everywhere when you urinate

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    They look great when around the penis. Like a comfortable buffer guiding it home.

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    PinkPolkaDot wrote:

    Stuburns wrote:

    I'm sure I have seen it on tv and basically it's like cutting rind off bacon. Cross ur legs and wince.

    Why, why would you even say that. I just had bacon and you almost made me throw it back up.

    I don't know how true this is because I obviously am not a man and don't have a penis but don't bigger lips feel nice cos they 'hug' the penis if that makes sense? That's kind of what I imagine anyway. And the whole breaking up with someone because of the appearance of their genitals? That's just immature and shallow, and it goes both ways.

    Yes you are so right. Porn pussy is not even attractive, totally bald and just a pencil line. Nothing to see move on. For me it seems so wrong as it makes it looks child like which is so so wrong.

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    Gentle giant wrote:

    Yes you are so right. Porn pussy is not even attractive, totally bald and just a pencil line. Nothing to see move on. For me it seems so wrong as it makes it looks child like which is so so wrong.

    Yes but aren't you now saying smaller lips aren't attractive? Every woman is different and should learn to accept her body. Its weird for me to be saying this because there are so many things I hate about myself yet I would never, ever change anything because this is me, this is the way I am and I wouldn't dream of chaning myself.

    And I hate the term 'beef curtains' I wish people would stop using it, it sounds like an insult. I would probably never get naked around a man again if that's how someone referred to my bits.

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    PinkPolkaDot wrote:

    Gentle giant wrote:

    Yes you are so right. Porn pussy is not even attractive, totally bald and just a pencil line. Nothing to see move on. For me it seems so wrong as it makes it looks child like which is so so wrong.

    Yes but aren't you now saying smaller lips aren't attractive? Every woman is different and should learn to accept her body. Its weird for me to be saying this because there are so many things I hate about myself yet I would never, ever change anything because this is me, this is the way I am and I wouldn't dream of chaning myself.

    And I hate the term 'beef curtains' I wish people would stop using it, it sounds like an insult. I would probably never get naked around a man again if that's how someone referred to my bits.

    I hate that too it's so insulting, wether its from a woman or a man. I don't have large labia but i'm not small either I'm average so next thing all people reading this are now gonna be wondering what people class as 'large' or 'small'

    Its like saying if a woman has perky or 'saggy' breasts .

    The simple fact is, if you don't like what a womans labia looks like then take a look at your dick, coz tbh they ain't exactly pretty lookin either.

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    PinkPolkaDot wrote:

    Gentle giant wrote:

    Yes you are so right. Porn pussy is not even attractive, totally bald and just a pencil line. Nothing to see move on. For me it seems so wrong as it makes it looks child like which is so so wrong.

    Yes but aren't you now saying smaller lips aren't attractive? Every woman is different and should learn to accept her body. Its weird for me to be saying this because there are so many things I hate about myself yet I would never, ever change anything because this is me, this is the way I am and I wouldn't dream of chaning myself.

    And I hate the term 'beef curtains' I wish people would stop using it, it sounds like an insult. I would probably never get naked around a man again if that's how someone referred to my bits.

    Not at all, It is just the president that porn is setting. I love them all natural. I cannot think of anything that would of turned me off at all. Its just my pref. Just the same as some ladies like a big cock and some like a smaller one. Ladies are more body conscious than most men, and Iam telling you not to be in this area. We are reffering to larger lips being reduced, all iam saying is there are a lot off men like Larger lips.

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    I love them all.
    Pink you are smoking and I'm sure you get told that often. Magazines and tv create these hang ups that people get and then people make profit by offering a service to alter them. Life just one money making scheme.

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    PinkPolkaDot wrote:

    Gentle giant wrote:

    Yes you are so right. Porn pussy is not even attractive, totally bald and just a pencil line. Nothing to see move on. For me it seems so wrong as it makes it looks child like which is so so wrong.

    Yes but aren't you now saying smaller lips aren't attractive? Every woman is different and should learn to accept her body. Its weird for me to be saying this because there are so many things I hate about myself yet I would never, ever change anything because this is me, this is the way I am and I wouldn't dream of chaning myself.

    And I hate the term 'beef curtains' I wish people would stop using it, it sounds like an insult. I would probably never get naked around a man again if that's how someone referred to my bits.

    I agree with that. Sometimes, in an effort to point out that everyone is attractive to someone else, it can do exactly what we wanted to avoid. Like this:

    Curvy women are sexy, no one wants bones digging into them (There, you just said skinny women are disgusting)

    I also notice on the (many) threads relating to penis size, in an effort to put our point across that size doesnt matter and small penises are just as good, we can end up saying stuff like "Guys with big cocks are bad lovers" or "every single guy i have been with, who had a big one, was a bad experience" (There, we just told all large guys that they suck in bed lol)

    And now the same with the labia thing. In an effort to put across that there is nothing wrong with big labia, we could potentially make girls who have small labia feel inadequate.

    Its easy done. Even though it is all done with good intentions to make others feel better. xx

    Same again with the hairy vs bald vaginas choice.

    The way I see it is everyone has different tastes and thats okay, but if you slate everyone else who does not match your tastes, thats bad.

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    Regradless of what body parts, its seems year by year they find something else to obsess about needing to make 'perfect'.

    Even though, I'm sure all the females will agree our parts come in a range of apearances.
    If some one wants to go ahead with the operation then that is up to them but we need to stop shaming others for choosing not to.
    We have far too many things we are forced to be shamed of. When in reality we should be proud and respectful of one anothers appearances.

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    I must be strange; i absolutely love big labia. My wife has big labia (and one bigger than other) and i adore them, especially after a good pussy-pumping

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    How sad is it that a bloke could feel entitled to criticise his partner's labia? Makes me ashamed to have a penis sometimes. I'm sure the majority of us consider ourselves lucky every time we get our hands (or tongue, or anything else) on one.

    Ladies, please don't mutilate your bits to achieve the unrealistic ideals that porn shows. You all own a little work of art, and they're all damn fine as far as I'm concerned.

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    I love my OH's beef curtains

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    I love porn. :D but I still think that it does have an impact, especially on younger people who have not experienced any different. Same as media has an impact. Everything has an impact on peoples learning, or insecurities.

    How does fashion get started...young people emulate what they see in magazines or on tv, or ....in porn. Back in the 70s, pubic bushes were all the rage in porn, then the stars started waxing and now we all do it, otherwise its "icky" lol That is one example of it.

    James Deen (Male porn star) actually does go round universities and colleges making presentations and speeches about porn, condoms etc.

    It is basically a fact of human nature. We learn and copy what we see. Not many kids see "real" sex and with porn being much easier to find on the internet, they "learn" what sex (And what penises and vaginas look like) through porn.

    There is nothing wrong with porn. Porn is healthy, so long as it is not the only tool of learning at the young peoples disposal and they also pick up informative advice (Like this forum, guides, etc). Otherwise it does cause problems...from addiction to insecurities like....

    why can't I last so long in bed, is my penis too small, is my vagina ugly, why isnt my lady having screaming orgasms from penetration alone....and so on and soooo on.

    I agree though, people should have a choice, whatever they want to do with their own bodies is up to them.

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    Kinky&Curvy wrote:

    PinkPolkaDot wrote:

    Gentle giant wrote:

    Yes you are so right. Porn pussy is not even attractive, totally bald and just a pencil line. Nothing to see move on. For me it seems so wrong as it makes it looks child like which is so so wrong.

    Yes but aren't you now saying smaller lips aren't attractive? Every woman is different and should learn to accept her body. Its weird for me to be saying this because there are so many things I hate about myself yet I would never, ever change anything because this is me, this is the way I am and I wouldn't dream of chaning myself.

    And I hate the term 'beef curtains' I wish people would stop using it, it sounds like an insult. I would probably never get naked around a man again if that's how someone referred to my bits.

    I hate that too it's so insulting, wether its from a woman or a man. I don't have large labia but i'm not small either I'm average so next thing all people reading this are now gonna be wondering what people class as 'large' or 'small'

    Its like saying if a woman has perky or 'saggy' breasts .

    The simple fact is, if you don't like what a womans labia looks like then take a look at your dick, coz tbh they ain't exactly pretty lookin either.

    Snap! I think I'd get my clothes back on and run away fast if someone called my bits beef curtains.

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    Ork wrote:

    But that sort of thing has existed long before porn XD Basically what I was trying to say is only weak minded people are ever going to follow trends, fashions etc, due to everyone else doing it, as with porn, a strong person mentlally will do what makes them happy, because it makes them happy, not because everyone else is doing it lol. People really are like sheep some times XD

    I dunno, I just feel we scape goat/blame things like porn way too much for human nature, because humans will not, ever! Accept they could possibly be the issue... after all, who wants all this porn, thus fuelling the industry and thus allowing it to continue damaging people, its the same people who complain about it generally XD

    Humans are weird :P

    So you're basically saying that 99% of the population is weak minded seeing as fashion trends do exist and people do follow them.

    I don't think anyone was blaming anything on porn - just saying that it enforces the idea that we should be a certain way. Surely when small labia is all you see constantly in porn and its not just one woman, its multiple women, then you start thinking 'there must be something wrong with me, why don't I look like that' What you're essentially saying is that women are now not only self conscious about their labia but also weak-minded for thinking so. Great confidence boost there!

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    I'm not weak minded but I still have insecurities about myself.

    Anyone who says they don't have any insecurities at all, I think are basically kidding themselves

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    I think the more independant thinking comes with age and experience. I remember how important it was to "fit in" with peers back at high school. I can see my kids going through that now, mum can tell them all she wants to be their own person, but mums old fashioned...its FRIENDS that know the TRUTH! lol sighhh the joys of children hehe.

    A lot of things done at earlier age is done to impress or be like their friends. Humans naturally want to belong, to be part of the scene. It is imprinted in our genes, as being the cast out, or at the edge of society was not always safe or smart.

    By the way....humans invented porn. Porn IS human nature....human nature to be "the man" or "the popular girl" or "getting great sex" or....yeh, porn is human fantasy. Much like TV shows or movies are all human fantasy.

    I personally watch porn a lot. More than my guy anyway. I don't think porn is to blame while I think about it....lack of education is maybe to blame? Think about it....porn, like movies, is not real, just fantasy dramatisised for our thrills and pleasure. Porn should not be banned. but maybe kids should be educated better that porn is just fun and something interesting and not really "real" and that real sex is not like that, and women and males come in all colours, sizes, shapes etc and that is normal.

    Then maybe we wont have so many people feeling hate about themselves....

    Then we begin working on the fashion industry....

    Meet you in Milan! lol

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    Gentle giant wrote:

    Here's the twist, we all agree what ever the reason's women should not do this to them selfs. Every year there are millions of baby boys, for no other reason than there parents want it are circumsized. Not the childs choice but they are still mutilated.

    Not really a twist. I don't agree with that being done either, unless the child (Male or female) is in pain or has a medical issue requiring it be done. In america, it is generally the done thing to remove the foreskin, religious or not.

    There are some countries where they also remove/cut off baby girls clitorises for their religious beliefs.

    None of that needs to happen! Mens foreskins and womens clitorises are just fine as they are...attached!

    My personal opinion is that that boy or girl should be allowed to get to an age where they can CHOOSE what they want, or whether to follow that religion or whatever.

    This is not really the same thing. (It is, but it isnt...) because I assume this thread is about women CHOOSING to actually have an operation to change their body due to feeling/thinking that they are not normal, or are ugly. Whereas the circumcision of males and female babies is, I guess due to personal faiths and beliefs.

    I am not pro any of it.

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    Ork wrote:

    Fluffbags wrote:

    I think the more independant thinking comes with age and experience. I remember how important it was to "fit in" with peers back at high school. I can see my kids going through that now, mum can tell them all she wants to be their own person, but mums old fashioned...its FRIENDS that know the TRUTH! lol sighhh the joys of children hehe.

    A lot of things done at earlier age is done to impress or be like their friends. Humans naturally want to belong, to be part of the scene. It is imprinted in our genes, as being the cast out, or at the edge of society was not always safe or smart.

    By the way....humans invented porn. Porn IS human nature....human nature to be "the man" or "the popular girl" or "getting great sex" or....yeh, porn is human fantasy. Much like TV shows or movies are all human fantasy.

    I personally watch porn a lot. More than my guy anyway. I don't think porn is to blame while I think about it....lack of education is maybe to blame? Think about it....porn, like movies, is not real, just fantasy dramatisised for our thrills and pleasure. Porn should not be banned. but maybe kids should be educated better that porn is just fun and something interesting and not really "real" and that real sex is not like that, and women and males come in all colours, sizes, shapes etc and that is normal.

    Then maybe we wont have so many people feeling hate about themselves....

    Then we begin working on the fashion industry....

    Meet you in Milan! lol

    In high school I chose to hang around with a ginger guy... I think it is possible the majority of people are born with the whole following what everyone else does thing, but I also think some people are born without it, I guess it could be argued it makes sense genetically to have a few individuals to lead and many to follow, it just makes sense for what is essentially to some extent a herd animal... that is you know, evolvoved :P

    I think we have "evolved" technology wise, a lot, lot quicker than we can evolve DNA wise....I guess this can cause problems for us. I have a sense, deep down, you also lean on people to whatever extent...as going it completely and utterly alone would mess anyone up. We are designed to be interactive...it keeps our species going. :D

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