• Bi-polar disorder and Hypersexuality.

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    Could a mod please merge this thread in link... http://www.lovehoney.co.uk/community/forums/off-topic/305185-saying-goodbye-for-a-while/

    To this thread I have posted in? Much appreciated ! ;)

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    I have been diagnosed with BPD and have been hospitalised with it. I remember that when I was in hospital, the medication that I was on increased my libido tremendously which was the last I needed (there was no way I could get any elief.) So I would suggest having a word with your psychiatrist about alternative drugs.

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    Very new to this forum but I was diagnosed as Bipolar 1 in 2006 and have taken a keen interest in bipolar disorder and other mental health conditions since my days at uni where i studied psychology. Hypersexuality is not unique to bipolar disorder, but is common and can happen regardless of your mental health state. i am in a depressive episode and am still like a bitch on heat. I feel awfuil because i actually go in the huff if my partner cant keep up with me or if he says he isnt in the mood to have sex. Its something that, for me anyway, doesn't really have any let up, although it is ten times worse when I am manic. Its a constant urge to have sex or take part in sexual activity, I can climax through penetrative sex and within minutes I am raring to go again. I remember a previous partnerthinking it was really cool that i had such a high sex drive, until he realised that it was so constant. I must admit now that with medication and whatnot, its not so bad, but if imy partner, who normally lives 100 miles away,is at home, i use my rabbit several times today and watch porn etc. Its neither a blessing or a curse but can be frustrating for both partners. I wish you luck with the diagnosis, i fought for ten years for my diagnosis and 4 years on, depsite a low at the moment, life has never been better x

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    I have Bi-Poplar and when I am at my most depressed or anxious, I often feel the need to cum or I will become agressive and lash out at things. Getting support and medical is the best thing you can do. Not being ashamed to talk to your partner is a great thing. It will mean your relationship will survive.

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    LittleMiss1981UK wrote:

    I have Bi-Poplar and when I am at my most depressed or anxious, I often feel the need to cum or I will become agressive and lash out at things. Getting support and medical is the best thing you can do. Not being ashamed to talk to your partner is a great thing. It will mean your relationship will survive.

    Thanks LittleMiss, Paul really appreciates the support from like-minded members! He doesn't feel alone so much now bless him.

    He does try really really hard not to take it out on me, But sometimes it just gets too much.

    But we'll get there!

    xxx

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    Indeed, Thankyou littlemiss, And the rest of you! It's nice to know Im not alone out there! ;) xxx

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    Hey Seduced - sorry to hear you are having a hard time. Try not to jump to conclusions or self diagnose, but do go to the referral and get the pros opinions. I can vouch for how difficult mood disorders can make intimate relationships. Whether I'm going frantic or not, I won't get any sex with my OH for 6-8 weeks at a time usually, and it definitely causes anxiety, but the help I have had has given me some skills to keep a handle on what's happening and prevent anything spiralling off too much.

    The pros will have good advice to offer, so go see them and see if you can get some therapy. IMO counselling can be useful but there are more direct and (IMO) effective therapies which can start to shift things more quickly and usefully than counselling alone. And if you can avoid the drink, it is a temptation but can play havoc with mood disorders, as can any other mood altering substances.

    As other folks have said, always here for a chat if you like!

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    Loves huni wrote:

    definately not alone hunny! ill not go on about my issues and wat not (think id be here all night!) but there are plenty of people with similar things so dont ever be afraid to ask for help/a chat :) x

    * Hugs * Thankyou sweetie ;) xx

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    tronic wrote:

    Hey Seduced - sorry to hear you are having a hard time. Try not to jump to conclusions or self diagnose, but do go to the referral and get the pros opinions. I can vouch for how difficult mood disorders can make intimate relationships. Whether I'm going frantic or not, I won't get any sex with my OH for 6-8 weeks at a time usually, and it definitely causes anxiety, but the help I have had has given me some skills to keep a handle on what's happening and prevent anything spiralling off too much.

    The pros will have good advice to offer, so go see them and see if you can get some therapy. IMO counselling can be useful but there are more direct and (IMO) effective therapies which can start to shift things more quickly and usefully than counselling alone. And if you can avoid the drink, it is a temptation but can play havoc with mood disorders, as can any other mood altering substances.

    As other folks have said, always here for a chat if you like!

    Yo, Tronic! Good to see you about again hombre ;)

    I don't drink nowadays dude so its not an issue, I just had the impulse to go get hammered, But didn't :)

    Definately waiting on the call tomorrow from my GP, Will be good to get the ball rolling!

    Jade bless her is trying her best to help me out and to understand, She's been a real rock recently, And yes, She eventually joined lol! But I know sometimes it is very difficult on her! :(

    Wow, I certainly have a lot of friends on here to chat to now! Think I may have to get Jade to be my PA and make appointments, Nah, Just kidding lol!

    Though the Jade being a PA thing is an idea, Hmmmm? * Ponders on some very wicked thoughts! * ........

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    tronic wrote:

    Hey Seduced - sorry to hear you are having a hard time. Try not to jump to conclusions or self diagnose, but do go to the referral and get the pros opinions. I can vouch for how difficult mood disorders can make intimate relationships. Whether I'm going frantic or not, I won't get any sex with my OH for 6-8 weeks at a time usually, and it definitely causes anxiety, but the help I have had has given me some skills to keep a handle on what's happening and prevent anything spiralling off too much.

    The pros will have good advice to offer, so go see them and see if you can get some therapy. IMO counselling can be useful but there are more direct and (IMO) effective therapies which can start to shift things more quickly and usefully than counselling alone. And if you can avoid the drink, it is a temptation but can play havoc with mood disorders, as can any other mood altering substances.

    As other folks have said, always here for a chat if you like!

    Yo, Tronic! Good to see you about again hombre ;)

    I don't drink nowadays dude so its not an issue, I just had the impulse to go get hammered, But didn't :)

    Definately waiting on the call tomorrow from my GP, Will be good to get the ball rolling!

    Jade bless her is trying her best to help me out and to understand, She's been a real rock recently, And yes, She eventually joined lol! But I know sometimes it is very difficult on her! :(

    Wow, I certainly have a lot of friends on here to chat to now! Think I may have to get Jade to be my PA and make appointments, Nah, Just kidding lol!

    Though the Jade being a PA thing is an idea, Hmmmm? * Ponders on some very wicked thoughts! * ........

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    Loves huni wrote:

    after posting on the squiting thread im beggining to think that after being diagnosed as 'clinically depressed' for the last 12 or so years perhaps im slightly more bipolar? which could be the reasoning for no really getting a great deal better...

    especially recently ive been having more mood swings than ever (though it could be due to the fact ive ot taken my meds for a few days) and one minute im in a terrible way, crying, shaking, getting angry at everything an nothing 10/20 minutes later ill be absolutely fine and seriously horny!

    my meds make me lose my sex drive and on them i find it hard to orgasmbut afte having a few days off from my meds ive already come about 4 times today, once last night and once the day before!

    im seriously confused here!! :s

    sorry to crash your thread a little sed, im just hoping maybe you could help as im thinking this could be similar to you?

    i also still get horny when im on my meds and get really frustrated because i cant orgasm and my oh has a super low sex drive so i often feel rejected :s im really confused! xxx

    Seriously Sweetie, No need to say sorry!!!

    See, For about the same time period - 12/13 years leading up to now, I was diagnosed with Clinical depression.

    I was diagnosed and always went to see my GP when very low/suicidle/self-harming etc, But never when I was on a high, Or overly horny etc etc.

    Over the years I've come to know myself well enough to realise that this isn't a case of depression. Depression in no way explains the major HIGHS, The almost drug induced style of mania, ( Not actually drug induced, But very similar to experiences when I used to be on Class A's ) The Extreme brain activity ( Over-analysing and thinking things over and over in accute detail all night etc! ), Being very specific about where things are, the list is endless.

    This is what spurred me on to researching Bi-polar disorder, Coupled with an ever-spiraling-out-of-control spending problem and the Extremely high sex drive.

    I will add for your benefit/comparison that I have been monitoring my libido over a course of 6 months, And have come to the conclusion that the following are consistent for me...

    > Extremely high libido is present pretty much 98% of the time over the 6 month period.

    > Have experienced an extremely low patch aswell as a few manic episodes, In lower lever lows and highs.

    > No apparent triggers for Libido as I just said, It's present duing both Lows and highs!

    > Masterbation can alleviate the excess "Energy" whilst I'm "Wired" However, This alleviation only helps the physical aspect for a few hours. But doesn't help in any way with the phsycological side of things.

    As For meds, I'm not diagnosed yet, But for my "Depression" I've been on Prosac, Citilopram, Amytriptalyn, And others from years ago that I cannot recall the names of.

    Pain killers wise, I'm on Codeine Phosphate, Naproxene, paracetamol 500's and sometimes Tramadol.

    Sleeping meds & Tranqs ( Tranqs for when I'm extremely manic or very angry - severe mood swings ) I'm on or take irregularly - Tamazepan, Zolpiclone, And I forgot the other lol.

    Anyways...

    A lot, If not most of those meds have one repeating side-effect. - Possible change/loss/decrease of libido.

    NOT IN MY CASE. It seems that no-matter what life, My gp, My mental or physical health throws at me, My Libido pretty much remains at a very high level.

    I hope this helps so far Hun?

    I'll add more when I think of anything! ;) xxx

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    In lower lever lows and highs - oops, I meant And lower level lows and highs.

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    after doing some seperate research on bi polar and borderline personality disorder im worried that theese conditions might describe me.

    http://www.mind.org.uk/help/diagnoses_and_conditions/borderline_personality_disorder#What%20is

    i tend to feel on top of the world one day and that life isn't bad, and then like i dont want to be around another and have problems of going through phases of spending money like its going out of fasion. my sex drive goes from high to low but i always thought that was hormonal. yet now im on the implant its gone from sky high to nothing again so its unlikley to be that.

    and while my parents were emotionally abusive ( i'd have got stuff sorted sooner if they hadnt instilled the fear that if i ask for help i will be sectioned by the doctor or my parents themselves) i worry that if i am diagnosed with either of the conditions it delegitimises my feelings and the things that factually happened in my teens.

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    I have an opinion for you guys, and it should in no way be taken the wrong way - the labels which exist to delineate various mental health problems are there for clinical reasons or whatever else and I personally feel that one's mind and the gnarly sort of shit that can get all hooked and tangled up in there is more of a continuum of things, not so discrete as the labelled disorders can suggest.

    Be wary of reading up on these things and going for conclusions yourself, although it can be helpful to reflect on things - it's much better to go see someone for help and maybe not just GP. Gps seem to be content to pop someone on antidepressants and wait for 10 months until many isolated moderate depressive episodes can resolve themselves. Some gps may even repeat this process many times. Maybe push for a referral and see what the refferal folks say.

    CBT is the usual way which most of these matters are effectively treated with talking therapy, but it isn't a magic solution and takes a shedload of hard work and perseverance. Takes ages to start to see even small changes, but one just has to keep remembering why you're doing it and how much better things will get over time. The medication is a maintenance thing, doesn't always just fix everything (now that would be great if it did.)

    @lh - good luck with the CBT - it is really useful for some people so I hope it gives you some insight and positivity!

    @sl666 - good luck if you do go for some help, but don't go in with the predeliction to be any of these things, they are just labels and it's (IMO) more important and useful to learn how your mind works and how you can get a grip on the reins.

    It's in some way sad to hear that many of you/us folks have issues in this area but also inspiring to hear how you all cope and come to terms with things and the way these conditions can affect people! I hope I've not said anything offensive, this is just my nascent understanding of thisa rea from my own perspective having recently been through the mental wringer. :) As long as I put smileys everything will be ok, right?

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    Smileys always make everything ok mate!

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    I wasn't bi-polar so really can't and won't comment on that - but I was clinically depressed and was almost sectioned a couple of years ago. I did many thing that were certainly immoral and often borderline line legal - but I don't remember doing them. It's my family and friends who tell me what I did

    I just want to comment briefly on drugs - anti-depressants.

    I started out on Citalopram (sp???) like Huni - but on the maximum dose. Honestly you could've bent a hen party over and asked me to fuck each one of them and I wouldn't have cum. It was awful. I had to wank even after sex - it was the only way to get anything approaching satisfaction.

    I found that the drugs didn't suppress the desire or the ability to fuck - just the ability to cum. So I changed to something else that I'm still on - Mirtizapane (sp again???). MUCH BETTER!!!

    So when you're on the drugs that help my point - getting there now!! - is that it must be the right one for you. just 'cos it works for X doesn't mean it'll work for you. So be stroppy and ask for a change if necessary There will be one that's right for you, you just have to find it.

    This probably isn't helpful at all ... but I hope there is the germ of something useful in all that.

    Keep going mate - it does get better. Mental health problems can be got over just like a physical illness. You're in my thoughts.

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    I've posted this in the news thread too:

    http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/neurotic-people-need-more-sex-2154509.html

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    Just a lil update for you all.....

    Im now seeing a psychiatrist & am looking at diagnosis some time soon, And she's pretty sure I am indeed Bi-Polar.

    As for the HS, It's still there, Part of my Psychological makeup....

    But I don't allow it to rule my life anymore, Or more importantly, I don't allow it to upset J anymore!

    I fight hard every day, Dont get me wrong.... But I distract myself when it starts kicking in, Instead of turning to porn, Which co-incidently Last month I got rid of my entire collection!!!

    Which was a HUGE thing for me...

    Anyway, I drown myself in something entirely unsexual & stick to whatever it is for at least a few hours.

    Like I said its still there & I do have my 'Off' days, But generally its become easier for me lately.

    Paul ;) xxx

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    Hi Paul

    I'm new around here, just joined up yesterday but I saw the thread and got reading, had to reply.

    At the tender age of 15 I was abused by my first 'boyfriend', and as a result, for years I've fought against my sexual needs and desires feeling guilty and disgusted with myself.

    I had counselling for the abuse at the time, but something the psychs and doctors tend to neglect is that something like that can stay with you for a very long time.

    About a year ago I was diagnosed with depression, which my doctors relate to my past. However, despite my repeated insistance that my depression is abnormal so to speak, they see no point in going through the rigmarole of providing me with a further diagnosis of BPD. This is extremely frustrating for me, especially as like yourself and other sufferers, my symptoms come with hypersexuality.

    And it's as a result of the hypersexuality rather than the depression that my relationships have always failed miserably. Therefore it's wonderful that your partner understands to the extent she does. She must be a pretty special kind of person.

    I have met someone I enjoy spending time with, and like yourself I'm 'managing' my hypersexuality. It's early days, I have warned him and we do have sex, and although he's unaware of the extent of the problem, he does know I masturbate every couple of hours.

    I also have 'off' days as you put it, and on those days it can be really really hard not to scream, shout, beg and cry for it. And those are the days I keep as little contact with him as possible. Unfortunately it's not just him that's affected of course, but everyone around me when 'episodes' occur (and these can last from a day or so to several weeks). My mum, colleagues, friends tend to get the brunt of my agitation. Mum puts it down to my depression, which is fine. My colleagues do the same. And my friends know the truth, quite often telling me to 'get f*cked', and they mean it literally.

    But the one thing I've learnt in dealing with it, is to manage it by all means, but don't repress it entirely all of the time, as this can, and has been for me, just as dangerous.

    Congratulations on ditching the porn. Massive step!

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    Thankyou very much and welcome to the OA!

    Sounds like you've been through some crazy shit yourself!

    The porn was a massive leap for me but i must be honest and say ive kept a handful of vids on my hdd.

    Simply because at times porn was my only coping mechanism up until recently, And it scares me to think how I would be with absolutely nothing to fall back on you know?

    As for Lady J, She really is something special.....

    Imagine feeling the way we do ( in the HS sense. ) And then to have a partner that is the polar oposite, Having no sex drive at all.....

    Thats how hard things have been for us, But hopefully we'll get there eventually lol

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