anti natalist

 what is anti natalist?

where you dont believe in having kids. he thinks its not right to have children because they cant choose whether they want to be born. also the worlds wrecked from people having millions of kids

Now it has it's own thread  oh and be careful with your wording almost anything you say will offend or up set someone because that's how people are on the internet.

(for those not knowing this started on another thread entirely off topic so I though screw it lol) 

Whoever made that statement had a point. 

I wont say what my feelings are on the other end of the scale as that would probably cause even more offense.. i think you know what I mean. 

I have a daughter and a grandaughter who I love dearly. Cant imagine life without them. Thats all I have to say at this stage.

 Al get the fire started here is a stement to all the junkies and wasters ho we all know and mainly the ones ho ar now like fiftth generation wasters "stop shagging, have a bath, get a job, then settle down and have kids!".

What well yes I know not everyone is like that but I hve the great fortune of knowing such people my self my twin's boyfriend ho banged her up being one of them. So yes this thread could get heated so please play nice lol but yeah that should start things off hopefully.

 Giving it some more thought though considering the sheer amount of bad things in the world and the fact it's going to be hell for probably 99% of the people born at some point or another should people really be having more kids? I mean take the parents family and all that and every single person on the planet out of the equation and look at it from said unborn possible child's point of view.

 If people stopped having children the human race would die out

 yeah, if youre gunna get annoyed at this thread, dont bother commenting, cant be dealing with sensitive internet goers

i think my boyfriend DOES have a point alhough i dont agree with how extreme it is. no its not really fair that children get brought into the world and dont have a choice and get made to go through hard things and suffer when they didnt really ask for it in the first place! (i know theres no solution to this) and yes they do get forced to live through life as suicide is illegal, they make it as difficult as possible you to kill yourself, if you get taken to the hospital you get revived. its just not really fair. BUT!!!! the majority of people would rather be given the chance of life (me especially even though ive had a miserable time with my psycho issues XD).

but its a hard issue because you cant just stop people having babies and kill off the human race because thats unrealistic. and putting a limit on how many children you can have is really cold hearted and seems inhumane. but the world is going to the dogs because of overpopulation. if people carry on breeding as they are now, in so many years everybody is going to living in poverty, all squished in in the world with major diseases that we've got rid of coming back.

and it really pisses me off that people in africa WILL NOT USE CONTRACEPTION because of stupid god damn religions, yet its not very religious to knowingly give birth to children knowing how much theyre going to suffer! theyre being born to die because of ignorant people! and then we're all told to donate to charity as if thats the solution when it could be sorted so much easier by handing out millions of condoms argh

fistinglover69 wrote:

and yes they do get forced to live through life as suicide is illegal, they make it as difficult as possible you to kill yourself, if you get taken to the hospital you get revived

Where do you live? Suicide is completely legal in the UK (but has only been legal since 1961), assisted suicide is illegal but as long as you're not so disabled you can't do it alone (which I think is baffling that the rules are different for one group to the rest of the country) you are not breaking the law to kill yourself or attempt to kill yourself. Although you're right that doctors are obliged to try and save your life if they can get to you.

Adx

Naughtybutnice12 wrote:

 If people stopped having children the human race would die out

im not saying stop having children altogether but i think people need to make an EDUCATED decision instead of thinking "i want a baby". now that my boyfriends taught me his views, i now dont want to have children. think how hard it is for people to have a nice life nowadays. so many worries, diseases, no money, debts, gotta find a job, gotta do well in school, gotta make friends, gotta have the perfect body and image, gotta have loads of friends. 

if i was a mother i would be worried constantly, thinking how i can make my child have the perfect life and how to prevent them from suffering

i just think the world that humans have made for themselves is really hard

 I don't think Africa is a problem at all people are making it a problem with all this charity crap if they are going to die let them seriously they will survive because there humans or they will die it's nature, and sadly they just never quite caught up with the modern world so dying off might avtually be more humane. As opposed to prolonging there suffering.

As for the banning of people having kids or putting limits that would be daft and as much as I hate it though it could work in ways to stop some ho could not have kids that would then contribute to the greater good due to there up bringing. Sadly though we have to tolerate such people having as much kids as they can because they love kids and insert other excuses.

If a family can't get a job and then has a child then it becomes that sort of mentality that as I mentioned leads to generations of people ho will never contribute to society or humanity or even try for that matter. However we should look at the fact some people don't want to bring kids in to this kinfd of world for a good reason sadly many people will go on and have kids with no real care for the consequence to humanity as a whole.

Alicia D'amore wrote:

fistinglover69 wrote:

and yes they do get forced to live through life as suicide is illegal, they make it as difficult as possible you to kill yourself, if you get taken to the hospital you get revived

Where do you live? Suicide is completely legal in the UK (but has only been legal since 1961), assisted suicide is illegal but as long as you're not so disabled you can't do it alone (which I think is baffling that the rules are different for one group to the rest of the country) you are not breaking the law to kill yourself or attempt to kill yourself. Although you're right that doctors are obliged to try and save your life if they can get to you.

Adx

oops i should have said euthanasia instead of suicide

Naughtybutnice12 wrote:

 If people stopped having children the human race would die out

Is that really a bad thing?

Ork wrote:

 I don't think Africa is a problem at all people are making it a problem with all this charity crap if they are going to die let them seriously they will survive because there humans or they will die it's nature, and sadly they just never quite caught up with the modern world so dying off might avtually be more humane. As opposed to prolonging there suffering.

As for the banning of people having kids or putting limits that would be daft and as much as I hate it though it could work in ways to stop some ho could not have kids that would then contribute to the greater good due to there up bringing. Sadly though we have to tolerate such people having as much kids as they can because they love kids and insert other excuses.

If a family can't get a job and then has a child then it becomes that sort of mentality that as I mentioned leads to generations of people ho will never contribute to society or humanity or even try for that matter. However we should look at the fact some people don't want to bring kids in to this kinfd of world for a good reason sadly many people will go on and have kids with no real care for the consequence to humanity as a whole.

 africa is a problem! poor children being born to have a  horrific life and then die in the next couple of years all because their parents are irresponsible. and i think we're too domesticated to let evolution do its on work on africa now

Ork wrote:

Naughtybutnice12 wrote:

 If people stopped having children the human race would die out

 

Is that really a bad thing?

 as soon as i saw that i was like "awww no we cant die out!" as if itd make a difference to me hahahaha

but that is our most basic instinct, to stay alive. even if you as a person wont be the one staying alive haha

 There is an interesting debate on Africa in particular but really we should just leave them alone and they will keep on living we have outr own stuff to deal with!  Or are people wanting the whole world to devolve in to that state of povery?

Oh and this is awesome!

" yeah, if youre gunna get annoyed at this thread, dont bother commenting, cant be dealing with sensitive internet goers"

It is an instinct to saty alive but what if we simply refused to reproduce?

Ork wrote:

 There is an interesting debate on Africa in particular but really we should just leave them alone and they will keep on living we have outr own stuff to deal with!  Or are people wanting the whole world to devolve in to that state of povery?

Oh and this is awesome!

" yeah, if youre gunna get annoyed at this thread, dont bother commenting, cant be dealing with sensitive internet goers"

It is an instinct to saty alive but what if we simply refused to reproduce?

have you saw idiocracy? hahaha its really clever. all the intelligent people realise reproducing is bad so they stop, which means that er not clever people are the only ones giving birth so eventually, the whole world is full of stupid people XD its dead good hahaha

fistinglover69 wrote:

Ork wrote:

 There is an interesting debate on Africa in particular but really we should just leave them alone and they will keep on living we have outr own stuff to deal with!  Or are people wanting the whole world to devolve in to that state of povery?

Oh and this is awesome!

" yeah, if youre gunna get annoyed at this thread, dont bother commenting, cant be dealing with sensitive internet goers"

It is an instinct to saty alive but what if we simply refused to reproduce?

 

have you saw idiocracy? hahaha its really clever. all the intelligent people realise reproducing is bad so they stop, which means that er not clever people are the only ones giving birth so eventually, the whole world is full of stupid people XD its dead good hahaha

Lol but not technically true pmsl. Perhaps for the greater good we must stop or at least try and clean up the place a little bit?

Ork wrote:

fistinglover69 wrote:

Ork wrote:

 There is an interesting debate on Africa in particular but really we should just leave them alone and they will keep on living we have outr own stuff to deal with!  Or are people wanting the whole world to devolve in to that state of povery?

Oh and this is awesome!

" yeah, if youre gunna get annoyed at this thread, dont bother commenting, cant be dealing with sensitive internet goers"

It is an instinct to saty alive but what if we simply refused to reproduce?

 

have you saw idiocracy? hahaha its really clever. all the intelligent people realise reproducing is bad so they stop, which means that er not clever people are the only ones giving birth so eventually, the whole world is full of stupid people XD its dead good hahaha

 

Lol but not technically true pmsl. Perhaps for the greater good we must stop or at least try and clean up the place a little bit?

i dont know you know, that could actually happen. thats whats happened with diseases and such. think how many diseases and illnesses and problems there are with humans now, because we have hospitals and doctors (which are brilliant, dont get me wrong) to make people survive, therefore, passing on dodgy genes. soon we'll all have horrific genes. but we've backed ourselves into a corner because evolution can no longer be let to fix us because we're too nice!!!

DISCLAIMER: I AM NOT SAYING I WANT TO GET RID OF PEOPLE WHO ARE DISEASED!! I AM VERY PRO NHS. but thats just the way the world is! which is how we get back to antinatalism

oh my god im turning antinatalist : |

 Welcome to the Ork and Fistinglover Thread .. lol 

sorry.. had to be done!!

 If we ever hope to rid our selfs of genetic flaws we must turn to science... and we have all seen what can happen when we start playing god with genetics!

Dee_licious333 wrote:

 Welcome to the Ork and Fistlover Thread .. lol 

sorry.. had to be done!!

Lmao I was thinking the same thing :L