Why?

 First and fore most this post will up set someone maybe a lot of people hell it may even up set everyone on the forum I doubt the latter but I feel someone has to say what has to be said.

But before we examine the now I feel it is best to look at the past first and see how things should be. When I first joined the forums all those many ages ago (roughly three years) this was the time of my old profile.

At that time these forums were a happy place, there were no barriers, you had nothing to fear, there was no need to be shy or scared you could say pretty much anything. These were good times and for the most part the forums were a safe haven to be your self, with only the odd issue cropping up here or there.

At the time of my leaving there was a change in the forums which was one of my reasons for drifting away. The forums are now something unrecognizable from that time.

Back in the day there were few issues and they were dealt with easily enough between members though every now and again there was the odd troll but life was good. That was then this is now and what a change there has been.

Now rather than a place to come and be your self and be open and free it is a place where you must mentally prepare and build barriers those not mentally prepared and armed to the teeth will be quickly hunted down and torn to bits by the trolls.

I have seen it happen several times now when a new member joins if they show any flaw or weakness they are jumped up on by the trolls. Now really we should be asking how this happens why are people willing to stand by and watch this?

Why are people willing to stand by and watch as a thread about cross dressing to use but one example devolves in to something that has nothing to do with the original post and seems to simply poke fun at it.

How should a new person react when they are reduced to tears because someone tried to have cyber sex with them and then when refused was bullied for it?

Is there a reason people get away with derailing every thread they don't like or agree with by spamming every post not in line with there views until people avoid the thread all together?

Should we not say something or at least report it when someone is blatantly being bullied?

I could go on for ages but the problems are I assume clear to all. The forums have become a place where discrimination, bullying, intolerance and ignorance runs riot and none of us are saying anything!

The trolls have free reign and go unchallenged some times getting away with murder only a select few now stand there ground many ho don't are chased off. And those ho do are often made to feel bad about it in one case a new member was chased from thread to thread not one person came to his aid bar one and my self, by then the damage had been done and no one intervened before then.

Now okay were not all perfect but surely we should not stand by and let this continue? No we can't do much but sticking up for someone can't be all that hard surely? Because until people stand together no one can stop any of this. The question I ask is why does no one bother?  

I take it you have made exhaustive use of the report button?

Ork it can happen by accident remember your " selling subs" post.

Ork wrote:

 First and fore most this post will up set someone maybe a lot of people hell it may even up set everyone on the forum I doubt the latter but I feel someone has to say what has to be said.

But before we examine the now I feel it is best to look at the past first and see how things should be. When I first joined the forums all those many ages ago (roughly three years) this was the time of my old profile.

At that time these forums were a happy place, there were no barriers, you had nothing to fear, there was no need to be shy or scared you could say pretty much anything. These were good times and for the most part the forums were a safe haven to be your self, with only the odd issue cropping up here or there.

At the time of my leaving there was a change in the forums which was one of my reasons for drifting away. The forums are now something unrecognizable from that time.

Back in the day there were few issues and they were dealt with easily enough between members though every now and again there was the odd troll but life was good. That was then this is now and what a change there has been.

Now rather than a place to come and be your self and be open and free it is a place where you must mentally prepare and build barriers those not mentally prepared and armed to the teeth will be quickly hunted down and torn to bits by the trolls.

I have seen it happen several times now when a new member joins if they show any flaw or weakness they are jumped up on by the trolls. Now really we should be asking how this happens why are people willing to stand by and watch this?

Why are people willing to stand by and watch as a thread about cross dressing to use but one example devolves in to something that has nothing to do with the original post and seems to simply poke fun at it.

How should a new person react when they are reduced to tears because someone tried to have cyber sex with them and then when refused was bullied for it?

Is there a reason people get away with derailing every thread they don't like or agree with by spamming every post not in line with there views until people avoid the thread all together?

Should we not say something or at least report it when someone is blatantly being bullied?

I could go on for ages but the problems are I assume clear to all. The forums have become a place where discrimination, bullying, intolerance and ignorance runs riot and none of us are saying anything!

The trolls have free reign and go unchallenged some times getting away with murder only a select few now stand there ground many ho don't are chased off. And those ho do are often made to feel bad about it in one case a new member was chased from thread to thread not one person came to his aid bar one and my self, by then the damage had been done and no one intervened before then.

Now okay were not all perfect but surely we should not stand by and let this continue? No we can't do much but sticking up for someone can't be all that hard surely? Because until people stand together no one can stop any of this. The question I ask is why does no one bother?  

Ork, I 100% agree with this, it was only last week I was having the same conversation with a few of my friends on here as I too have been made to feel how you have described so I am glad you have taken the time and effort to write this, from what I can see, very heartfelt post.

Unfortunately, the member who made me feel like this was you. Whether you mean to or not, you can come across as agressive quite a lot of the time and as a result, I have done my damndest to avoid posting on the same threads as you, or at least not too soon after you have, so as not to attract your attention to the fact I am communicating with other members on here. In short, I've been trying not to make myself a target. This has limited my use of the forums and also left me with a sense of worry whenever I see that you are online at the same time as myself.

Now I am not on here to 'have a go', and in no way am I insinuating that your aforementioned issue is at all your fault, I just thought that if you were bringing the subject up, I could calmly communicate my feelings. I hope you take this in the way it was intended and we can move on. We are all adults after all :)

I agree, there are certain members who don't read threads properly and jump to conclusions, and it really has to stop. You can tell that in some threads, the posts are very diluted so as not to incite any agressive reactions. It's a shame because this used to be a safe place to talk about anything! Maybe before people assume someone wants to physically harm an animal, for example, we should stop and ask that member what they REALLY meant by their comment as I'm sure if someone had those actual thoughts, they wouldn't be stupid enough to put it on a thread on LH for all to see!

I want the old LH back. WHO'S WITH US?

:) x

Everyone is entilted to an opinion and sometimes a person can be very articulate and others stammer their way through their point and somehow miss the whole objective or haven't effectively gotten what they wanted to write down properly. 

It's human nature that everyone is different and operate at different levels..... It would be a very boring place otherwise. Trolls are an issue but they are an issue for every site. I remember one who had angered every member on Lh because of his disregard for safe sex and boasted about how many sexual partners he had- in saying that he provided a stimulus for everyone to express their opinions on safe sex.

I also had problems with the whole cyber sex thing - infact one member then opened hell on me and went into a full rant about me as a person and how my profile pic was misleading (looked like i was up for it hmmmmm)....

At some point we will all feel like a target on any site we r on but Lh has safe guards on here. We can easily delete people from our friends list, we can report a post etc 

And it wasn't that long ago that im sure a member on here felt bullied because of the content of their thread and very few people stood up for them. Its all about how you view the situation - that member expressed themselves and was ripped to shreads by a lot of people - isnt that a form of bullying? 

 Anyhow I digress 

Noon wrote:

I take it you have made exhaustive use of the report button?

I see no need for it as little or nothing seems to come from it.

gunther wrote:

Ork it can happen by accident remember your " selling subs" post.

Oh I know it can happen by accident but there is also the blatant points when it is done in such a way that it is no accident.

And to save a lot of scrolling I won't quote http://www.lovehoney.co.uk/community/members/highly-insatiable/ glad I'm not alone in noticing the problems, that said I do apoligise I try to be as politically correct as I can but with the emotionless void of text I feel things come across the wrong way sometimes. But lets put that behind us? And I assure you it was not my intention to cause you any up set.

 To add -

It is ironic Ork, that as the person who has created this thread (very valid thread btw) that you are a person I actually find to be agrumentative and agressive on the forum but i believe thats just how you come across on paper. We cant see the people and watch their facial expressions -we have to make due with our own interpretation of the posts......

Ork wrote:

Noon wrote:

I take it you have made exhaustive use of the report button?

 

I see no need for it as little or nothing seems to come from it.

How many times have you reported posts?

The LH team wont get back to you, the actions they take are private.

Miss teach&nurse wrote:

Everyone is entilted to an opinion and sometimes a person can be very articulate and others stammer their way through their point and somehow miss the whole objective or haven't effectively gotten what they wanted to write down properly. 

It's human nature that everyone is different and operate at different levels..... It would be a very boring place otherwise. Trolls are an issue but they are an issue for every site. I remember one who had angered every member on Lh because of his disregard for safe sex and boasted about how many sexual partners he had- in saying that he provided a stimulus for everyone to express their opinions on safe sex.

I also had problems with the whole cyber sex thing - infact one member then opened hell on me and went into a full rant about me as a person and how my profile pic was misleading (looked like i was up for it hmmmmm)....

At some point we will all feel like a target on any site we r on but Lh has safe guards on here. We can easily delete people from our friends list, we can report a post etc 

And it wasn't that long ago that im sure a member on here felt bullied because of the content of their thread and very few people stood up for them. Its all about how you view the situation - that member expressed themselves and was ripped to shreads by a lot of people - isnt that a form of bullying? 

 Anyhow I digress 

I recall the guy ho claimed to have banged something like over a hundred women.... didn't do a thing wrong and he was torn limb from limb as a community we all seemed to join in.

The point in particular I'm making is that there are some cases where the line goes from blury to out right obvious and no one seems to bother. The safe guards are good and all for chat but what about outside of it?

Miss teach&nurse wrote:

 To add -

It is ironic Ork, that as the person who has created this thread (very valid thread btw) that you are a person I actually find to be agrumentative and agressive on the forum but i believe thats just how you come across on paper. We cant see the people and watch their facial expressions -we have to make due with our own interpretation of the posts......

Argumentitive I would agree with to some extent in ways but agressive is definetly not my intention.

 Although i dont know what LH used to be like i totally agree that some improvements could be made, atm i dont want to post on my own thread because the last person to post on it was an arse to me. Shouldn't be that i or others should have to keep from posting. x

Noon wrote:

 

How many times have you reported posts?

The LH team wont get back to you, the actions they take are private.

 I know but from previous experience nothing ever seems to happen.

There are certainly some members who do not like to post just after too, seems like a common theme. :(

Ork wrote:

Miss teach&nurse wrote:

Everyone is entilted to an opinion and sometimes a person can be very articulate and others stammer their way through their point and somehow miss the whole objective or haven't effectively gotten what they wanted to write down properly. 

It's human nature that everyone is different and operate at different levels..... It would be a very boring place otherwise. Trolls are an issue but they are an issue for every site. I remember one who had angered every member on Lh because of his disregard for safe sex and boasted about how many sexual partners he had- in saying that he provided a stimulus for everyone to express their opinions on safe sex.

I also had problems with the whole cyber sex thing - infact one member then opened hell on me and went into a full rant about me as a person and how my profile pic was misleading (looked like i was up for it hmmmmm)....

At some point we will all feel like a target on any site we r on but Lh has safe guards on here. We can easily delete people from our friends list, we can report a post etc 

And it wasn't that long ago that im sure a member on here felt bullied because of the content of their thread and very few people stood up for them. Its all about how you view the situation - that member expressed themselves and was ripped to shreads by a lot of people - isnt that a form of bullying? 

 Anyhow I digress 

 

I recall the guy ho claimed to have banged something like over a hundred women.... didn't do a thing wrong and he was torn limb from limb as a community we all seemed to join in.

The point in particular I'm making is that there are some cases where the line goes from blury to out right obvious and no one seems to bother. The safe guards are good and all for chat but what about outside of it?

 Clearly your not happy with Lh itself, maybe you should compose an email for the management team of Lh and state all your issues, you personally have with Lh. 

Ork wrote:

Noon wrote:

 

How many times have you reported posts?

The LH team wont get back to you, the actions they take are private.

 I know but from previous experience nothing ever seems to happen.

How many times have you reported posts Ork?

goodgirl93 wrote:

 Although i dont know what LH used to be like i totally agree that some improvements could be made, atm i dont want to post on my own thread because the last person to post on it was an arse to me. Shouldn't be that i or others should have to keep from posting. x

Goodgirl, the forum doesnt have an ignore button, but you can just ignore a post yourself, carry on as if it never happened.

Noon wrote:

Ork wrote:

Noon wrote:

 

How many times have you reported posts?

The LH team wont get back to you, the actions they take are private.

 I know but from previous experience nothing ever seems to happen.

 

How many times have you reported posts Ork?

 I rarely use it so not much.

Miss teach&nurse wrote:

 Clearly your not happy with Lh itself, maybe you should compose an email for the management team of Lh and state all your issues, you personally have with Lh. 

It's not love honey I have an issue with it's the forums however I agree an email might be a good idea.

Ork wrote:I recall the guy ho claimed to have banged something like over a hundred women.... didn't do a thing wrong and he was torn limb from limb as a community we all seemed to join in.

A hundred women (or men) isnt a lot depending on age. For me that would be about 3 different partners per year.

Best use safe sex if thats your bag though.

IMHO Lovehoney is an excellent community site, the emphasis is on mutual support and tollerance and in my experience the LH team take this very seriously.

If reports of posts have been made and ignored I would be very surprised and hope that Ork can tell us how many times he has used the report option.

gunther wrote:

Ork wrote:I recall the guy ho claimed to have banged something like over a hundred women.... didn't do a thing wrong and he was torn limb from limb as a community we all seemed to join in.

A hundred women (or men) isnt a lot depending on age. For me that would be about 3 different partners per year.

Best use safe sex if thats your bag though.

 The guy claimed to have done all of them without condoms and went on about his HUGE size. Also he was only like 19 or something so yes possible but a bit to good to be true.