Cats

Hi Dee

I own a cat and a dog so understand the issue, if I caught someone kicking my old lady I would tear them apart.

We used to have a pond and had big problems with a couple of local tom cats fishing, the best cure is a decent quality water pistol- the super soaker type are brilliant. Every time you catch the cat in your garden shoot at it. It may take a while but they get it eventually.

xGGx

Ork wrote:

DoorGlass wrote:

I have nothing against cats.

It's cat  "owners"  that need educating.

1. You can not "own" (ie reasonably control) a cat. It may sleep in your house on occasion and visit your house  to feed. But that is all.

2. If you took your dog into your neighbours garden so that it could do a shit and then took. your dog home, leaving the shit for your neighbour to deal with, you would soon get a slap from said neighbour; or advised by the law to stop it. Why is it that idiotic cat owners buy these creatures, knowing them to be free roaming and wild? They are not suitable as pets. Again I blame not the animal but the crazy cat owning idiots 

 

Comparing it to a dog is as pointless as me saying it's like me taking a sub in to your back garden on a lead and.... dog's are not cats and cats are not dogs for more information see the cats and dogs film lol.

Bar that bit I agree with the education factor some people really have no clue but some people do like a pet they can let out and not be bothered by all day. in saying that some area's just aren't good for cats.

I wouldn't say the comparison is pointless. Just shows how unpet-like cats are.

They're not really pets at all. Snooty, independent, "I'll rub your leg when I'm hungry" slut of a beast!

Better off with a sub....  at least they can't scale high fences in a single bound. Can they???

I feel its important at this point to draw clear boundaries, before we continue.

When I use the generic term ,"cats", I do not include the "Thundercats".

Maybe Snarf.

DoorGlass wrote:

Having said that, my GFs pussy is very well behaved....

 

LOL

ghostgirl wrote:

Hi Dee

I own a cat and a dog so understand the issue, if I caught someone kicking my old lady I would tear them apart.

We used to have a pond and had big problems with a couple of local tom cats fishing, the best cure is a decent quality water pistol- the super soaker type are brilliant. Every time you catch the cat in your garden shoot at it. It may take a while but they get it eventually.

xGGx

 

We dont see the cat all the time thats the problem. If a cat wants to risk coming into our garden and if we do catch it we probably will chase after it, doubt we would get to kick it but the owner has given us permission to. I am not talking beating the thing half to death for gods sake.

ghostgirl wrote:

Hi Dee

I own a cat and a dog so understand the issue, if I caught someone kicking my old lady I would tear them apart.

We used to have a pond and had big problems with a couple of local tom cats fishing, the best cure is a decent quality water pistol- the super soaker type are brilliant. Every time you catch the cat in your garden shoot at it. It may take a while but they get it eventually.

xGGx

This sounds like a good non-cruel solution.

In fact I think I may buy a dozen or so cats - and a couple of super mega huge soakers.

Get a couple of mates round, few beers.

Great fun.

 Hi Dee. Ever seen these spikes? The reviews aren't bad!

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Fence-Wall-Spikes-13-5M-BROWN/dp/B0046YJNCM/ref=sr_1_1?s=outdoors&ie=UTF8&qid=1339896438&sr=1-1

SG x 

ghostgirl wrote:

Hi Dee

I own a cat and a dog so understand the issue, if I caught someone kicking my old lady I would tear them apart.

We used to have a pond and had big problems with a couple of local tom cats fishing, the best cure is a decent quality water pistol- the super soaker type are brilliant. Every time you catch the cat in your garden shoot at it. It may take a while but they get it eventually.

xGGx

Joking aside, you shouldn't have to patrol your garden with a giant water pistol....

.....then again, maybe we need our free roaming cats to keep the rats in their place. One cat turd may serve as a deterent, sending out a message to the rats to keep out of your garden? 

But then rats are just as innocent. Driven underground into our sewers by us...and then demonised by us for living in our shit. 

The stoats are the sly arse ones. See Wind in the Willows.   

SEXYGET 69 wrote:

 Hi Dee. Ever seen these spikes? The reviews aren't bad!

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Fence-Wall-Spikes-13-5M-BROWN/dp/B0046YJNCM/ref=sr_1_1?s=outdoors&ie=UTF8&qid=1339896438&sr=1-1

SG x 

 

Wow, they are not too costly really. Thanks SG - i will try the black pepper and orange peel over the next few weeks .. if that doesn work I will consider the spikes. 

Door glass where i live is semi rural not on a council estate and not near any restaurants or cafes, so rats are not a problem where i live. Youre right, i dont have time to wait for the cat to jump in so I wil try alternative methods, non costly at first. If it still persists, i will suggest the owner parts with some cash to buy the spikes. Watch this space!!! Thx all for the advice. 

Dee_licious333 wrote:

Door glass where i live is semi rural not on a council estate and not near any restaurants or cafes, so rats are not a problem where i live. 

 Don't you believe it - without cats they certainly would be! Rodents are omnivorous so they can and do thrive very well in rural areas. We have a farm house and outbuildings that are several hundred yards from any other building. During the two years it was unoccupied during restoration it became totally infested with mice, voles and rats. Despite three cats and about 20 (humane) traps and a little help from the kestrels and buzzards we still have an up-hill struggle against rodents.

We simply have to face the fact that our countryside and our cities would be totally over-run by rodents in the absence of a small carnivore to keep their population down. Traditionally that role would have been filled by the stoat and the weasel but we persecuted them almost out of existence a long time ago. So, like it or not, the introduced cat has filled the niche. It didn't ask to be here - we introduced it to serve exactly this purpose. Unfortunately, the cat is nowhere near as trainable as a dog so there is a serious limit as to the control anyone can exert on a cat. Try walking a cat on a lead/harness and you will rapidly come to the same conclusion. You can bang on all you like about the cat owner but most are helping to limit the problem of the cat (which we brought down on ourselves). Most homed cats are neutered (and so limit the population increase). Neutering is also likely to cause the cat to bury its droppings - the most likely cat to crap without burying it is an un-neutered male so perhaps you can ask your neighbour if they have had the cat neutered or not. 

Is the cat in question the only cat in your neighbourhood? Because if it isn't, it's unlikely to be the only cat crapping in your garden!
I had this arguement with an old neighbour who was horrible to my cat for pooping in his garden and wouldn't believe it was any other cat doing it until I took a photo of another cat in his garden! I knew my cat couldn't produce as much crap as was in his garden as she is mostly a house-cat, is litter trained and I was still emptying her tray..
I even offered to clean his garden every other day and buy him some Silent Roar (lion poo pellets that cats hate! Also not that expensive..) but he was an utter prick about the whole thing. So not all cat owners are 'bad'

Cats are sneaky buggers and even if it's another cats 'territory' they will still push their luck.. My bet is even if you deter this particular cat, another one will be waiting in the wings!

There are some types on flowers that cats hate so might be worthwhile planting in your garden, can't think what they are, but I'm sure google will know.

P.S Rats are eveywhere!!! I live in a suburban area too and one of my neighbours had a rat nest under her shed!

Good luck with keeping your garden cat-free!!

P.P.S Have you thought about getting a dog!? :D

xxx

MissBoo wrote:

Is the cat in question the only cat in your neighbourhood? Because if it isn't, it's unlikely to be the only cat crapping in your garden!
I had this arguement with an old neighbour who was horrible to my cat for pooping in his garden and wouldn't believe it was any other cat doing it until I took a photo of another cat in his garden! I knew my cat couldn't produce as much crap as was in his garden as she is mostly a house-cat, is litter trained and I was still emptying her tray..

Did your photo show the other cat actually doing a poo?

It would be too funny if it did. Would love to be there as you presented your neighbour with a photo of a cat actually doing a crap in his garden.

But then how do we know you didn't stage the whole photo thing with a borrowed cat?

 You could get a light, i know its a nuisance having it come on and off everytime there is movement but it may work. Though better if you get a water pistol so that when the light comes on you know its there and can spray it which means you dont have to keep constant watch also the cat after a while will start to associate the light with the water spray and will run away for fear of being caught. 

You could also ask your neighbour to put a litter tray out in his garden if it's only next door then the cat should be happy to only walk a small way. I agree with you that the neighbour should of trained it to respond to a tray yet hes not fully in control of his pet at all times.
Not all us crazy cat people are bad :) I have 3 cats and i love them very much they are all indoor cats put ive had outdoor cats and they can be trained, ive had cats who will sit, stand, roll over, paw and high five it all really depends on the owner. And please dont kick or poison the cat (i cant believe the owner gave you permission to kick him! A sure sign that he must not care that much about his pet, which would explain the lack of training.) It's not ultimately the animals fault. 

I hope i was of some help :) xx

if someone kicked my cat i would rip them apart, i think the owners prob meant you can shoo the cat away, dont get me started on posion,

in a garden its wildlife, so do you clean all the grass from bird shit, hedgehogs, other cats, flies, mice the list is endless, to me seems as tho you have a downer on the cat not just for crapping in your garden

also i sugges Lovehoney that this thread be closed as you can see from the replies that its made people very edgy

 

rach74 wrote:

if someone kicked my cat i would rip them apart, i think the owners prob meant you can shoo the cat away, dont get me started on posion,

in a garden its wildlife, so do you clean all the grass from bird shit, hedgehogs, other cats, flies, mice the list is endless, to me seems as tho you have a downer on the cat not just for crapping in your garden

also i sugges Lovehoney that this thread be closed as you can see from the replies that its made people very edgy

I don't think anyone is condoning harming the cats in question. They are innocent creatures following their instincts. It's the ignorant owners who are at fault. 

Concensus seems to be that some owners think its ok to release a wild animal into the neighbourhood and if it chooses to shit in your garden so be it.

Silly to compare a cat that has been intentionally released into an area by its "owner"  to naturally occuring birds or hedgehogs. Very silly. Besides, a cat turd is a lot bigger than a birds or hedgehogs.

And why ask for this thread to be closed? Feel free to leave the debate at any time you choose.

As adults we can all decide for ourselves whether its getting too edgy for us. I don't think anything has been said that warrants intervention or cenorship.

  

 We are all members of society and as such bear a degree of responsibility for the environment we live in. So we are all to a degree responsible for the problems caused by cats, rodents, dogs etc. The fact that you don't own a cat means you are having your rodent problem kept at bay at the expense of someone who does keep a cat. If the cats were kept in 24/7 then you would soon find out what rats look like. And if you think the natural small carnivores would be better than the cat then think again - weasel shit and fox shit make cat shit seem utterly benign - and bird-lovers would find out that weasels are far more effective bird-killers than cats as they can get places cats can't and they take eggs which generally cats don't.

And there is the whole thing about live and let live. Some people get great comfort from their pets. Why should we deny them that? If you want to live in a totally sterile, sanitised environment can I suggest planet Earth was a bad place to pick to live. I don't own a dog but because I have a few hundred yards of foot-paths on my land I move loads of dog-shit all the time. However, I appreciate that open fields without livestock are one of the few places that a dog can run free for a while and I would not want to deny them that freedom. We would all do a lot better if we accepted that things other people/animals want/need to do have an impact on us and we would all be a hell of a lot better off if we had higher degrees of tolerance to them. 

DoorGlass wrote:

 

rach74 wrote:

if someone kicked my cat i would rip them apart, i think the owners prob meant you can shoo the cat away, dont get me started on posion,

in a garden its wildlife, so do you clean all the grass from bird shit, hedgehogs, other cats, flies, mice the list is endless, to me seems as tho you have a downer on the cat not just for crapping in your garden

also i sugges Lovehoney that this thread be closed as you can see from the replies that its made people very edgy

I don't think anyone is condoning harming the cats in question. They are innocent creatures following their instincts. It's the ignorant owners who are at fault. 

Concensus seems to be that some owners think its ok to release a wild animal into the neighbourhood and if it chooses to shit in your garden so be it.

Silly to compare a cat that has been intentionally released into an area by its "owner"  to naturally occuring birds or hedgehogs. Very silly. Besides, a cat turd is a lot bigger than a birds or hedgehogs.

And why ask for this thread to be closed? Feel free to leave the debate at any time you choose.

As adults we can all decide for ourselves whether its getting too edgy for us. I don't think anything has been said that warrants intervention or cenorship.

  

DO NOT start telling me what to do, other people ask to have previous threads closed so dont start on me, im an animal lover and would never harm anything

lets go to the exteme that i cant stand my nieghbours grandkids when they come over as they scream and yell in the garden all day long, yes i would love to shut them up as the irresponsible parents letting them run riot cant seem to hear them

if people want to harm animals then they will be reported the same as if someone harmed kids

quite agree Rach we are all animals all the same justa different tag !!!!

first of all if anyone said they  where going to kick my cat next time they saw it i would let them know that i would do the exact same thing to them.

This thread is making me very glad that i keep my cats as indoor cats and they lead happy content lifes.

unfortuntley cats do shit in other peoples gardens its just nature they are many differnt products you can buy i surgust a google search.

good luck in solving your problem dee

rach74 wrote:

DoorGlass wrote:

 

rach74 wrote:

if someone kicked my cat i would rip them apart, i think the owners prob meant you can shoo the cat away, dont get me started on posion,

in a garden its wildlife, so do you clean all the grass from bird shit, hedgehogs, other cats, flies, mice the list is endless, to me seems as tho you have a downer on the cat not just for crapping in your garden

also i sugges Lovehoney that this thread be closed as you can see from the replies that its made people very edgy

I don't think anyone is condoning harming the cats in question. They are innocent creatures following their instincts. It's the ignorant owners who are at fault. 

Concensus seems to be that some owners think its ok to release a wild animal into the neighbourhood and if it chooses to shit in your garden so be it.

Silly to compare a cat that has been intentionally released into an area by its "owner"  to naturally occuring birds or hedgehogs. Very silly. Besides, a cat turd is a lot bigger than a birds or hedgehogs.

And why ask for this thread to be closed? Feel free to leave the debate at any time you choose.

As adults we can all decide for ourselves whether its getting too edgy for us. I don't think anything has been said that warrants intervention or cenorship.

  

DO NOT start telling me what to do, other people ask to have previous threads closed so dont start on me, im an animal lover and would never harm anything

lets go to the exteme that i cant stand my nieghbours grandkids when they come over as they scream and yell in the garden all day long, yes i would love to shut them up as the irresponsible parents letting them run riot cant seem to hear them

if people want to harm animals then they will be reported the same as if someone harmed kids

Whoa  - take a deep breath Rach - none of my comment was telling you to do anything at all. Honestly. Have a look over it.

You could try the super soaker on your neighbours grandkids?!

super soaker on neighbours grandkids good idea lol

also dee are you sure its not foxes at night time shitting in your garden? just a thought