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    Dee_licious333 [sign in to see picture]
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    Neighbours of ours allow their cats out and for some time now one of their cats keeps shitting in our garden. 

    We have a lovely garden but everytime we mow the lawn, the shit is there. My husband has spoken to the owner who we are quite friendly with. My husband told him straight that if he sees the cat in the garden he will kick it. Our neighbour totally understood this and said it was ok to kick it away.

    Well we rarely see the cat doing its thing so cannot always frighten it away but its becoming so annoying as this has been happening since we moved here several years ago. I also know of other neighbours who started growing herbs and vegetables in their front garden only to find cat poo in the morning and they have had to stop growing their veg and herbs.

    I know you cant keep cats indoors, well not all cats and i doubt i could convince  our neighbour to do this. There are other cats in the neighbourhood that would take over our garden as their territory I am sure but i am even considering some kind of poison to put down, not to kill the cat but to make it sick. 

    I dont think i would go ahead with it but I cant tolerate it any longer. 

    Any suggestions?

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     why don't you try orange peels. cats (usually) dont like the smell

    putting sticks/wooden poles around the area that they do it might help

    you can buy comercial spray detterants from places like garden centres as well

    it's a bit drastic to expect an animal to be confined to the house or to make it ill (or worse) over the sake of it being in your garden.

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    sweetlove666 wrote:

    it's a bit drastic to expect an animal to be confined to the house or to make it ill (or worse) over the sake of it being in your garden.

     

    Thanks for the advice but i hear the cats get used to spray deterants, orange peel and even tiger poo.

    In my opinion if you want to have cats then ensure you train them. We have been very tolerant .. several years sweetlove. I do have my grandaughter over sometimes and it means we cant sit on the grass. Why should i have to forego sitting on the grass with friends and family because someone can not keep their cat from shitting ( not just being) in our garden?

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     First and foremost you tread VERY treachourus legal ground! Kick it and you could break a rib or something poison to make it ill and well.... how would you know your going to just make it ill?

    There are many options including harnless sound emitters... you see the problem there is you can't hear it the local kids can and it can be rather annoying and in some cases on the verge of painful for them one of my neighbours found that out the hard way a while back when a bunch of kids broke the things to bits and I have to say I agree with what they did that thing covered half the street! 

    So your options? Barb wire your fence make sure it's blocked at the bottom with compost or whatever block any and all ways it could possibly get in.

    I am not joking by the way but if you do then check your allowed to have barb wire.

    DO NOT hit the cat or harm it directly in any way that includes poison god only knows the legal crap storm that could cause!

    Another option is I suppose trying various random powder stuffs and what not that supposedly keep them away.... supposedly not sure if they would or not.

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     I think i will actually ask my neighbour to pay for the sound emitter or powder stuff you mention .. after all, its his cat that is doing the deed.

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    Dee_licious333 wrote:

    sweetlove666 wrote:

    it's a bit drastic to expect an animal to be confined to the house or to make it ill (or worse) over the sake of it being in your garden.

     

    Thanks for the advice but i hear the cats get used to spray deterants, orange peel and even tiger poo.

    In my opinion if you want to have cats then ensure you train them. We have been very tolerant .. several years sweetlove. I do have my grandaughter over sometimes and it means we cant sit on the grass. Why should i have to forego sitting on the grass with friends and family because someone can not keep their cat from shitting ( not just being) in our garden?

     Common misconception it's not a dog trainning isn't something there that caring about. Also when it is out there's no way for you to train it. Though it is not impossible to train a cat but your asking it not to shit in where it feels safe. My mums cat doesn't come in my room I made damn sure it knew what would happnen the next time it did and after years of being chased out it got the hint. 

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    Dee_licious333 wrote:

    sweetlove666 wrote:

    it's a bit drastic to expect an animal to be confined to the house or to make it ill (or worse) over the sake of it being in your garden.

     

    Thanks for the advice but i hear the cats get used to spray deterants, orange peel and even tiger poo.

    In my opinion if you want to have cats then ensure you train them. We have been very tolerant .. several years sweetlove. I do have  my grandaughter over sometimes and it means we cant sit on the grass. Why should i have to forego sitting on the grass with friends and family because someone can not keep their cat from shitting in other peoples garden?

     

    cats are animals - they do not know whos garden it is.

    cats can be litter trained however as older cats its incredibly hard and very unlikley, it's also problematic for outdoor cats to be litter trained because theyre not near the litter tray.

    would you get annoyed if there was bird droppings, hedgehog poo or any other kind of feaces in the garden from other animals? animals poo more or less wherever, it's not singling out your garden.

    do you really expect your neighbours to follow their cat around to teach it not to poo in your garden?

    and have you tried the deterants? if they get used to it change the brand or invest in one of the sensors, or maybe even alter your fences so the cat cannot climb over.

    or could you do what me and my family have done for years - move the poo ( using a shovel) and put a blanket down. it's cat poo, not toxic waste!

    you're seriously considering killing or injuring your neighbours cat because its doing something that it doesnt know is wrong or upsetting and is natural.

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    Dee_licious333 wrote:

     I think i will actually ask my neighbour to pay for the sound emitter or powder stuff you mention .. after all, its his cat that is doing the deed.

     

    Sadly most owners won't fork out for anything which being honest make's sense in a way it's your garden sort of arguement but if they refuse I would contact the local council or who ever and see what you can do legally.

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    Ork wrote:

    Dee_licious333 wrote:

     I think i will actually ask my neighbour to pay for the sound emitter or powder stuff you mention .. after all, its his cat that is doing the deed.

     

    Sadly most owners won't fork out for anything which being honest make's sense in a way it's your garden sort of arguement but if they refuse I would contact the local council or who ever and see what you can do legally.

     

    legally not much - the cat/nuiscance existed before they moved in, meaning there's no liability on the part of the owners.

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    sweetlove666 wrote:

    would you get annoyed if there was bird droppings, hedgehog poo or any other kind of feaces in the garden from other animals? animals poo more or less wherever, it's not singling out your garden.

    They dont have owners. I never said it was singling out my garden.. please read what i said.

    do you really expect your neighbours to follow their cat around to teach it not to poo in your garden?

    I expect them to train their so called pet, pest more like.

    and have you tried the deterants? if they get used to it change the brand or invest in one of the sensors, or maybe even alter your fences so the cat cannot climb over.

    Why should i pay for something that isnt my fault.

    or could you do what me and my family have done for years - move the poo ( using a shovel) and put a blanket down. it's cat poo, not toxic waste!#

    Im not touching any animals shit. Maybe i will suggest to the owner they remove it.

    you're seriously considering killing or injuring your neighbours cat because its doing something that it doesnt know is wrong or upsetting and is natural.

    And where did i say SERIOUSLY??? please read what i said. It may be the only way to stop it shitting on our lawn, yes i cant say i havent considered it

     

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    sweetlove666 wrote:

    Ork wrote:

    Dee_licious333 wrote:

     I think i will actually ask my neighbour to pay for the sound emitter or powder stuff you mention .. after all, its his cat that is doing the deed.

     

    Sadly most owners won't fork out for anything which being honest make's sense in a way it's your garden sort of arguement but if they refuse I would contact the local council or who ever and see what you can do legally.

     

    legally not much - the cat/nuiscance existed before they moved in, meaning there's no liability on the part of the owners.

     

    No the cat didnt exist before us/before we moved in sweetlove. Please get your facts right!!

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    You can ask, but I doubt they'll be very receptive if you're looking for more than a few quid.  After all, cats are a lot less domesticated than dogs, and aren't so easy to train; once they decide something's their territory, unless they're dissuaded, they'll not respond to any argument that they're wrong!

    Garlic flakes/powder, cinnamon, or black pepper works well, as they really don't like the smell or taste, and after a few trips they'll associate your garden with getting it on their paws and stop bothering.  Take a bit for them to make the association, but generally once they give up, they stay away for good.

    Different cats have different tolerances to all the usual tricks, so better to try the cheap homemade solutions before shelling out for a noise emitter that this particular cat might not be bothered by.

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     I would say now it is in my experience if you are planning such things as murder best not tell people on the internet lol. Jokes aside though maybe invest in an auto mated senseor activated sprinkler? I have seen it done once very effective.

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    BashfulBabe wrote:

    Garlic flakes/powder, cinnamon, or black pepper works well, as they really don't like the smell or taste, and after a few trips they'll associate your garden with getting it on their paws and stop bothering.  Take a bit for them to make the association, but generally once they give up, they stay away for good.

    Different cats have different tolerances to all the usual tricks, so better to try the cheap homemade solutions before shelling out for a noise emitter that this particular cat might not be bothered by.

     Ah now black pepper and garlic could work well. Will give that a go. Thank you. 

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    BashfulBabe wrote:

    You can ask, but I doubt they'll be very receptive if you're looking for more than a few quid.  After all, cats are a lot less domesticated than dogs, and aren't so easy to train; once they decide something's their territory, unless they're dissuaded, they'll not respond to any argument that they're wrong!

    Garlic flakes/powder, cinnamon, or black pepper works well, as they really don't like the smell or taste, and after a few trips they'll associate your garden with getting it on their paws and stop bothering.  Take a bit for them to make the association, but generally once they give up, they stay away for good.

    Different cats have different tolerances to all the usual tricks, so better to try the cheap homemade solutions before shelling out for a noise emitter that this particular cat might not be bothered by.

     

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    Ork wrote:

     I would say now it is in my experience if you are planning such things as murder best not tell people on the internet lol. Jokes aside though maybe invest in an auto mated senseor activated sprinkler? I have seen it done once very effective.

     

    Nobody knows who i am. And its not murder.. if i was killing a person then yes it would be. lol

    Following on, i cannot move the fences, they are boundary fences and give privacy plus they are quite high and the cats jump from neighbours fences onto ours. 

    Thanks for everyones advice. 

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    Dee_licious333 wrote:

    Ork wrote:

     I would say now it is in my experience if you are planning such things as murder best not tell people on the internet lol. Jokes aside though maybe invest in an auto mated senseor activated sprinkler? I have seen it done once very effective.

     

    Nobody knows who i am. And its not murder.. if i was killing a person then yes it would be. lol

    Pmsl al keep my eyes on the tv for someone killing a cat lol

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    I have nothing against cats.

    It's cat  "owners"  that need educating.

    1. You can not "own" (ie reasonably control) a cat. It may sleep in your house on occasion and visit your house  to feed. But that is all.

    2. If you took your dog into your neighbours garden so that it could do a shit and then took. your dog home, leaving the shit for your neighbour to deal with, you would soon get a slap from said neighbour; or advised by the law to stop it. Why is it that idiotic cat owners buy these creatures, knowing them to be free roaming and wild? They are not suitable as pets. Again I blame not the animal but the crazy cat owning idiots 

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    DoorGlass wrote:

    I have nothing against cats.

    It's cat  "owners"  that need educating.

    1. You can not "own" (ie reasonably control) a cat. It may sleep in your house on occasion and visit your house  to feed. But that is all.

    2. If you took your dog into your neighbours garden so that it could do a shit and then took. your dog home, leaving the shit for your neighbour to deal with, you would soon get a slap from said neighbour; or advised by the law to stop it. Why is it that idiotic cat owners buy these creatures, knowing them to be free roaming and wild? They are not suitable as pets. Again I blame not the animal but the crazy cat owning idiots 

     

    Comparing it to a dog is as pointless as me saying it's like me taking a sub in to your back garden on a lead and.... dog's are not cats and cats are not dogs for more information see the cats and dogs film lol.

    Bar that bit I agree with the education factor some people really have no clue but some people do like a pet they can let out and not be bothered by all day. in saying that some area's just aren't good for cats.

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    Having said that, my GFs pussy is very well behaved....

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