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Erotic Book Club - Longing for Toys

James
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Sex toy fan alert! The Erotic Book Club title for February is Nexus author Virginia Crowley's Longing for Toys, one of the filthiest reads we've ever come across - a tale of sexual obsession, strip clubs and customised remote-control vibrators. A must for LoveHoney fans!

Throughout February if you buy this book you get a free Chix Stick Mini Vibe, with which you can act out scenes from the novel to your heart's content!

Order it here: http://www.lovehoney.co.uk/product.cfm?p=12820

To help you make the most of the book, you can refer to the book extract and author interview too:

http://www.lovehoney.co.uk/sex/sex-stories/2008/02/01/book-of-the-month-longing-for-toys/
http://www.lovehoney.co.uk/sex/sex-stories/2008/02/01/book-of-the-month-extract-longing-for-toys/
http://www.lovehoney.co.uk/sex/sex-stories/2008/02/01/book-of-the-month-virginia-crowley-interview/

Here are some questions to think about while you're reading the book:

What did you like or dislike about Longing for Toys?

Which scenes did you enjoy the most?

The commercial sex trade isn't an area covered in most erotic fiction, mainly because publishers think it's unappealingly sleazy. Would you like to see more novels set in this world?

The author makes no bones about the moral and financial ruin caused by the strippers. Is sex really this dangerous?

The commercial sex trade generally tries to play down its financial motivation, while the strippers here are blatantly trying to take cash from the men. Yet their scenes are still horny as hell. Do you think a financial basis for sex gets in the way of a good dirty scene?

This is a very different take on fem dom. Did you find it convincing?

Very few erotic novels focus on sex toys the way this does. Would you like to see more? And which toys would you like to see featured?

Did the book end the way you expected?

What changes would you make to the story?

Our Erotic Book Club titles have so far been Black Lace books. This is a Nexus book, aimed more at a male readership. Does this feel different from a Black Lace book?

Have you read Virginia's first novel, Corruption? What did you think?

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Just had a look at the description for Longing for Toys and it certainly looks like more than just your aveage cheeky read. I've never read Nexus books before, does anyone have any idea what they are like and why they are different to Black Lace?

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I've read a couple of Nexus books before - and I found they were rather more hardcore, and a little niche - for example one of them was about spanking which was the predominant theme throughout, whereas Black Lace novels are a little more rounded. Since then, however, I've read more hardcore Black Lace novels - so I will also be interested to see what this Nexus book is like, can't wait to receive mine!

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I can't muster up any enthusiasm for this one I'm afraid, especially since I had such a visceral reaction to Asking for Trouble and this seems to follow a similar theme.
I'll wait to see what the offering is for March.
Happy reading gang.

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Don't think it's *that* similar to Asking for Trouble, Lady V: it's actually more of a fem dom novel, with men (predominantly) being reduced to erotic jellies by manipulative strippers. I think it's extraordinary, easily my favourite out of the Erotic Book Club titles so far - but then I've always preferred the harder-edged Nexus approach.

kazzab/CW: Nexus books do tend to be stronger and more niche, although not *quite* as niche as a lot of internet porn! The books tend to focus less on relationships, too, although some - Aishling Morgan or Lindsay Gordon's books, for instance - are as richly plotted as any Black Lace book.

Anyway, enjoy the book! I look forward to seeing what everyone makes of it

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I'm looking forward to this book arriving, I heard it was filthy and kinky :-D

I'll let you know how it is :)

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Thanks for that lovehoney_james. I'm going to give it a go, and if I don't like the book then at least I'll still have a free vibe out of it!

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I am looking forward to your comments. By all means ask away if you have questions about the book. Thanks for your detailed review, Happycamper. I am not sure if anyone caught this, but the only people who never lie in this book are the villains. =)

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I've just got my copy and am going to read it this weekend. I'll give some feedback next week!

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Hmmm - I'd hoped this title would generate a bit more discussion! Personally I loved it, and thought it was different in an interesting way to most other erotic fiction out there ...

A bit belatedly, here are my answers to the questions:

- What did you like or dislike about Longing for Toys?

I was impressed by the tone of the book, which manages to encompass incredibly tawdry subject matter, crudely effective sexual energy and some sophisticated humour. As when the men crawl back to the club and claim 'We're just here to pick up some food.' 'Lollipops *are* food.' Classic.

- Which scenes did you enjoy the most?

My personal favourite is the bachelor party, partly because of the suggestions of just what has been going on with the lollipop. Am I beginning to sound like an obsessive here?

- The commercial sex trade isn't an area covered in most erotic fiction, mainly because publishers think it's unappealingly sleazy. Would you like to see more novels set in this world?

Certainly, if they're as well done as this. I think in a way the author's hit upon a curiously self-destructive erotic trend: for men (in particular) to be attracted to being used financially, in the most blatant way. Looking for love in all the wrong places ... Having had (ahem) 'relations' with camgirls in the past I can see where the men here are coming from.

- The author makes no bones about the moral and financial ruin caused by the strippers. Is sex really this dangerous?

As the author says in her interview, any kind of addiction is dangerous. Maybe this was what Michael Douglas meant when he claimed to be a sex addict - and I thought he was just trying to lure more girls back to his luxury pad ...

- The commercial sex trade generally tries to play down its financial motivation, while the strippers here are blatantly trying to take cash from the men. Yet their scenes are still horny as hell. Do you think a financial basis for sex gets in the way of a good dirty scene?

Evidently not. As above, in a curious way the financial basis for the sexual transactions here actually seems to make them more powerful. I may need to start paying my girlfriend for sex. Or maybe she should pay me?

- This is a very different take on fem dom. Did you find it convincing?

I'm not sure that the novel's meant to be that *realistic*. It seems very cartoonish to me in a way, the characters ciphers whose destinies are set from the start; there's not much difference between the strippers, for instance. But I do think that this kind of power - the ability to provoke and milk these infatuations for cash - exists, certainly. The novel starts to stray onto slightly dangerous territory with its implicit suggestion that the men are victims, exploited by the rapacious women - this is definitely not a politically correct way to view the sex trade! But the way in which it's done, and the kind of activities the girls indulge in, draw away from the grimmer end of the trade - and hey, it's novel ...

- Very few erotic novels focus on sex toys the way this does. Would you like to see more? And which toys would you like to see featured?

Oof. I was glad to see the erotic potential of remote-control vibrators being used here, all kinds of scenarios suggest themselves. I can't see Fleshlight stories winning too many fans though.

- Did the book end the way you expected?

I loved the ending - a perverse twist on the happily-ever-after wedding. As Michele says, everyone gets the thing they want the most.

- What changes would you make to the story?

Holly's viewing of the bachelor party video repeats some of the action we've already seen. This feels a bit like padding, I would have preferred to have more new material. Perhaps involving lollipops?

- Our Erotic Book Club titles have so far been Black Lace books. This is a Nexus book, aimed more at a male readership. Does this feel different from a Black Lace book?

Yes. The cliche about the different markets is that erotica for women focuses more on atmosphere and environment: descriptions of clothes, interior decor etc, more euphemistic sex, more of a focus on what's happening in a character's head and less on what's happening with their body, more romance and less obscene language. Men's erotica, by contrast, tends to focus more on physical attributes, dirty language, often specific kinks and fetishes (which is one reason why Nexus publishes spanking and caning novels, which you won't really find in Black Lace). Like many cliches, there's some truth to this - at the most basic level, Black Lace books are simply softer. My own tastes have evidently become so jaded that I generally prefer Nexus books, although these occasionally push the boat out a little too far for me.

- Have you read Virginia's first novel, Corruption? What did you think?

Not yet. Looks very different from Longing for Toys, but Ms Crowley's interview has definitely piqued my interest!

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What did you like or dislike about Longing for Toys?

I really wasn't keen on this at all. I love hardcore stories and porn, and domination etc turns me on, but this book didn't do anything for me at all, I'm afraid. I found it really unrealistic.

Which scenes did you enjoy the most?

The scene where Lucille is in a gang-bang is quite hot if you take it in isolation, but the lead up isn't realistic.

The commercial sex trade isn't an area covered in most erotic fiction, mainly because publishers think it's unappealingly sleazy. Would you like to see more novels set in this world?

There's nothing wrong with a bit of sleaze, but this completely made a mockery of all the characters in the book and made strippers out to be money-hungry whores - which I'm sure would probably annoy lots of strippers out there that just go and do their sexy dancing and don't take it any further!

The author makes no bones about the moral and financial ruin caused by the strippers. Is sex really this dangerous?

'Normal' sex isn't dangerous at all. If it's in a loving caring relationship, then danger doesn't come into it at all, as the couple trust each other.

The commercial sex trade generally tries to play down its financial motivation, while the strippers here are blatantly trying to take cash from the men. Yet their scenes are still horny as hell. Do you think a financial basis for sex gets in the way of a good dirty scene?

I think in this case it definitely does because I felt these scenes were quite forced, and not very erotic.

This is a very different take on fem dom. Did you find it convincing?

No, I didn't. I just felt it made a mockery of all the characters and their varying lifestyles.

Very few erotic novels focus on sex toys the way this does. Would you like to see more? And which toys would you like to see featured?

I didn't see a problem with toys being featured, but I have read much more erotic novels which contain toys. I think perhaps less spoken of toys, for example strap ons (used on men) etc, would be very sexy.

Did the book end the way you expected?

By the time I got to this point I wasn't really bothered!

What changes would you make to the story?

I just didn't like it in general, so I'm not going to answer this question.

Our Erotic Book Club titles have so far been Black Lace books. This is a Nexus book, aimed more at a male readership. Does this feel different from a Black Lace book?

Yes, most definitely. It made sex seem very detached and not at all erotic. Bring back eroticism next month - please!

Have you read Virginia's first novel, Corruption? What did you think?

No I haven't, and I'm not sure I would after reading this, unless anyone could recommend it.

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I haven't finished it yet - I am up to chapter 6 and have mixed views on it so far, I can't say until I finish it.

As it stands it reads like a man wrote it for other men. The characters are getting on my tits and not in a nice way, the women are either manufactured stripper/hookers - same thing in here, who giggle all the time while "pushing their gigantic tits together". Or they are prudish conservite snobs.

Scott is a weak minded sleazebag without character, Robert a weak willed 'nice guy' who wanks all the time now - like ALL the time like we have to have it described each time. There are continuity bugs a proof reader should have spotted...

BUT something compells me to keep reading, something makes me pick it up again each day. Maybe I just want to see one of the fake titted bitches get 5 across the eyes - OK wishfull thinking lol but they deserve it! Maybe I want to see one of these characters develope into something worthwhile as Holly seems to be starting to do.

I won't judge this book fully until I finish it though.

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I'm with you Miss Kitty - I keep reading even though I'm not overly keen!

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Not sure I agree that this is a book for men. Rather than repeat it all, here's my review:

http://www.lovehoney.co.uk/orgasmarmy/books/longing-for-toys-erotic-book-of-the-month/review/10229.aspx

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OK, so it looks like I'm pretty much the only person on this forum who liked the book. Does that make me some kind of weird pervert? Or does it just mean I have 'distinctive' tastes? However, I'm going to stick to my guns on this one - I think it's a great erotic novel. I've read a lot of 'sophisticated' erotica, which can get a bit dull, and was impressed by the raw dirtiness of this. But it is, as happycamper says, time for a new book ...

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Well I finished it, the only person who seems to rate it is a guy so I guess it does make it more for guys than gals.

Personally I found the character annoying, there was no believablity to them - I know it's escapism but come on - who would actually find a sex toy used by a prostitute and then use it (especially without cleaning!) ewww and a prude missionary only woman who didn't even masturbate taking a 13" dildo straight up? errrr I can't get anywhere near that and I'm a rampant sex beast!

But apart from that I found the whole manipulation repugnant, I found the yuppies were weak and pathetic, no character to them, the hookers continued to giggle and simper. Apparently DD tits are HUGE and will touch the floor if a woman is on her hands and knees - I'm sure every woman knows about cups sizes hence me think this is actually a man book. Mine are at least a G and they aren't that huge!

I thought towards the end things would change... I was wrong, it just got more rediculous, but I guess as I could not find any character endearing in any way I just didn't care they were used that way.

Something kept me reading, I don't know what it was but I read to the end, it did have continuity and made me want to see what happened, but maybe it was more in a watching a car crash sort of way.

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